Jaded No More

This is a forum for discussion. Last time I checked you’re free to put me on ignore. Just because someone doesn’t agree with your views doesn’t make it a carry on or laughable. You carrying on that there was nothing in it has been proven wrong. We’ve now lost our vice captain for 2 weeks. Whether you agree with the decision or not, it was a dumb thing for Jack to do and put us in that position as a club. I doubt anyone at the club would disagree with that assessment. No need to respond. I don’t give a single [censored] about what you think about my thoughts.

Why? How is this not a distraction? If we appeal that’s another day of not knowing if he can play or not. We have a very tough week in hotel quarantine in Perth and a big game coming up on a hostile ground. How is this not an unnecessary distraction?

Regardless of what happens now, this stupid act from Viney has added unnecessary distraction to an already compromised preparation for a very important game. [censored] poor leadership.

Well this is a hot mess.

2 matches is harsh for someone with a decent record. But we all know they make light work of players who aren’t big names.

I’ll answer my own question. Simone on at 6:50pm then we have an Aussie representing in the horizontal bars. My night is sorted ?

Do we know the order of the gymnastics finals tonight? I am trying to plan my evening around it…. I’m not obsessed you are ?

Video is from Yesterday. Hunt reposted it and said "bad start to Perth quarantine". Poor form from Fritta haha

I’m worried. They are under immense pressure to perform and they’ll want to put a better performance in front of their home crowd for fear of copping the booing.

You might be right. He has always been someone that I found hard to warm to. He has not been a team player from the outside and there’s a reason he lost the captaincy. He’s also in bad form. Having said that I’m not here to hang him. I think what he did was terrible stupid unnecessary and very dangerous. But overall Jack is a fair player. He plays hard and tough and takes as good as he gives. I’ve been critical of Kosi and Spargo staging for frees and I love them both. I also think Oliver was a bit of a sook last year with the umpires and I’m glad he stopped doing that although he does get held more than anyone I know for no frees. None of our players are beyond fault. Viney doesn’t have form like Selwood for example, but it doesn’t make what he did any better. It was a fairly extended brain fade rather than a split second decision made in play and that will unfortunately cost him.

If Salem doesn’t play Hibbo surely comes in and Bowey plays the attacking role with Hunt. We don’t want to mess with the defensive structure too much at this stage I wouldn’t think.

Also a valid point. When a player does something dangerous while the ball is in play you can argue the split second decision a player was making trying to get or keep possession of the ball (think Fritsch earlier in the year or Hawkins on May). This was not in play. Ball wasn’t even near these two guys. That doesn’t help the argument that it was deliberate and off the ball.

When’s Bol running again?

Confirming today that Simone Biles will compete in this one. Hope she goes well!!

I think most people in this thread including me who said it’s a bloody bad look, think he will get a week. Not 7. A week for stupidity and for not being a big name player from a big club. But also for utter stupidity and potential of serious injury is fair. If he gets a fine he is lucky just as a few before him have been.

Well they’re old enough to have been fully vaccinated which helps.

Thank you. My iPhone is not an English professor ? I think he will get a week for malicious intent and that is about right. It’s a bad look and the AFL will want to stamp it out. Viney is not a big enough name so easy to make him wear it.

Whatever I won’t keep going around in circles with you. If you don’t think what Viney did was stupid and dangerous then you’re letting your bias show. Also some reading for you if you’re interested https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/nov/25/head-neck-injuries-phil-hughes-doctor

I never said anything about crushing the windpipe. Read my posts again. Head and neck is one of the same when it comes to severe injuries and concussions. In fact a few players with ongoing concussion issues have had neck injuries or neck issues. We pay frees for above the shoulder not for in the head. End of story.

Are you trying to play dumb? Why do we put a neck brace when someone has a suspected head injury? Do you need an anatomy rundown? An injury to the neck can cause severe damage to both the body and the head. In fact they can be more dangerous than head injuries.

The head and neck are one of the same. If injured both can have severe consequences. Hence why we pay frees for above the shoulders and not just for being hit directly in the head. Are you comparing laying a tackle to deliberately hurting an opponent off the ball??? How are these two things related??

Putting pressure on someone’s neck is dangerous. Full stop. You try having a 90 kilo footballer put their elbow on your throat and see how you like it. Just because no damage was done this time doesn’t mean we should just let it go. It’s absolutely a bad look for a game that is trying so hard to protect the head of players. Tell me this, if a Gold Coast player did that to Gus who has a history of head injuries would you be mad about it?

If you think this is no big deal you’re letting your Melbourne bias cloud your judgement. It is a dumb and dangerous thing to do. It’s a bad look and we are a better team than that. Can’t stand clubs who resort to cheap shots. We won by 98 points. What is the [censored] point of this sort of idiotic aggression?

Why? He deliberately pushed his elbow into the neck of an opponent. It was not accidental, it was deliberate and dangerous. If someone did that to Oliver you would be calling for their head. It is a totally unnecessary act when we try to protect the head. The intention behind it means he will get at least a week. So good luck to him getting back into the side.

What a nonsensical and unnecessary thing to do. Poor leadership from our VC who is still struggling for form post a long injury lay-off. As stupid as him trying to break 900 tackles a game. Going straight to the tribunal. It’s a poor look and if the situation was reversed we would be livid.