Jaded No More

Jamar- GET RID OF IT! Missed a goal from 10m out, tripped over his own feet and fluffed the simplest of kicks, failed to sheppard against Betts (smallest man on the ground). Holland > Jamar McLean & Rivers- saving graces.

True or False Supporters who are sticking the knives into Dean Bailey have not been paying attention for the last 5 years.

Whelan doesn't have the fitness to play in the middle. A role reversal between him and Sylvia is a good idea. Sylvia is much better in the backline, he actually gets his hands on the pill for a change. Didn't see the incident as I was on the other side of the ground. Hopefully he doesn't get suspended, but even if he does, who cares... at least he is one of a handful of players who shows some anger and some heart while out on the field. Pity Mark Jamar didn't whack Judd like I hoped... I guess falling over ones own feet and missing a goal from 10m out is all he's ever going to be known for

Bate? Please tell me Bate is playing. We NEED another forward target in the senior desperately.

Frawley could probably take Brad Fisher. Fisher: 192cm 86kg Frawley: 193cm 88kg Both have reasonable foot speed, so it could be a really good match-up for him.

Anyone who doesn't think Paul Gardner is passionate about this club clearly knows nothing about him. The man has sacrificed everything for our club, donated his time and money to help us despite having no support from his family. Unless you actually know him personally I doubt you can judge his passion or dedication to this club.

Far far away. Mind you, I live 10 minutes from Sandy and I never have the time to go watch training, so it makes no different to me where we train. As long as we keep playing at the MCG, and the Casey Fields deal brings us more members.

Well 10,000 didn't sign-up after last season apperantly, so I'm wondering the same thing.

Same here. Am on a tight budget right now as I'm going to Europe in September, so no dinner for me either

Congratulations to Belly! Here's to 150 more (in the midfield )

Knowing a little bit about Gardner, I really can't see him being the cause of any fight. He'll go when he feels he needs to go, and he won't let his ego get in the way of the success of our club.

We'll win if we can keep Fevola to 4 goals or less.

We need people on the board who have a business background. While Jimmy is a passionate Dees man and while he does fantastic work in his field, I think he may lack the business know-how that I believe our next president should have. We are in a huge spot of bother off the field (and on ), so we need as many experienced heads on the board as we could possibly get.

And it's because our supporters are generally weak, fickle and conditional, that we are struggling badly and will continue to struggle. We have got to find a new supporter base to tap into (maybe the Casey Fields move will help) or we will die. If we have to rely on our current supporter group to buy memberships and turn up, it will never happen. If those extra 10,000 supporters signed up, we would have well over 30,000 members, which is a reasonable enough figure.

If the focus is on quick ball-movement, than a great handball to kick ratio is likely, especially if your running midfielders/ rebounding defenders lack pace.

Absolute shite for Petterd. Poor kid goes from a life-threatening lung injury to the dreaded 4-6 weeks 'groin' injury. :( But hey, Holland is listed as a 'test'... yippee

Brock McLean is in the top 10 in the league for contested possessions... he has clearly broken many team rules there Amazing how many people have got stuck into McLean and Bell. McLean is first in contested possessions, second in tackles and second in clearances (despite getting a hard-tag each and every week). Bell is second in 1%'s and equal fourth in tackles. When you are going as badly as we are, it's the players who do the hard things and the team things that get you through from week to week.

You are preaching to the converted. I doubt you'll find a more pathetically biased Brock fan on this site I just can't see him going from being on the outer with the leadership group, to stepping in as captain tomorrow (if that is even the case!). It would be a brave choice and one that I would applaud, because it is a long-term solution to a really big problem. Also agree that Rivers deserves a leadership role in some capacity.

So 'in play' is now basically the same thing as 'happened on the field, not in change rooms'?

Ben Johnson got 6 weeks for his hit on Bell last year, which was a deserved punishment for a very dangerous hit. What Hall did, to me, is far more serious and was not even in play, yet he gets 7. Bemusing to say the least.

My thoughts exactly. For one I hope Neita plays out the rest of the year and retires with the dignity and respect he deserves. Secondly, if he does indeed hand over the captaincy (that'll teach the club not to give players the power to choose a leadership group ), there is not a single player who deserves to take the role, so what will that achieve? Junior? Too old Miller? Is apperantly like totally the worst player like ever Bruce? Argh! Robbo? Double Argh! Yze? Is he still alive? Brock? Doing donuts with a suspended license Jones? 19 year old, can't hit a target by hand/foot Green? Not considered a leader by his peers Rivers? Shattered groin Everyone else? Terrible/inexperienced/just plain wrong

Unfortunately, the way Sylvia's career has panned out so far, near enough is just about good enough.

Errr your topic wasn't deleted, as I can't see anything in the trash can. What was your topic about? Maybe one of the mods merged it with another thread of a similar nature??

I don't remember Sylvia ever winning us a game of football, let alone a final. Also don't remember him ever finishing in the top 5 in our B&F. If you stop touching yourself for a minute, you'll see that McLean > Sylvia.

I think Davey kicked the goal after Jamar took the mark and got hit by the North Melbourne player. I'm sure advantage was payed and Davey went on to kick that goal.