Will come down to a bit of good discipline and luck with injuries, if we had those things in our favor last year I still believe we would have been pushing hard for the top 4, so top 8 or epic failure this year, I am slightly reluctant to embrace the hype that loss to Collingwood is still in the back of the mind, but saying that the Collingwood loss is not the reason we missed finals was a combination of things the loss to freo, nth x2 and not burying Brisbane when we had the chance, I just hope the players are hurting as much as us supporters if they are I don’t think they will let it slip this time