Moonshadow

5 hours ago, whatwhat say what said:

50m up in the air, 40m downfield

He'd be good company with Clarry then

2 hours ago, Hatchman said:

It set an appalling example to all the other players, especially the junior ones. It was a disgraceful act, the fine should have been a hell of a lot more

Our club needs to be better than this, little wonder that we are having the season that we are having, with players resorting to this kind of behavior. It is embarrassing.

Settle down.

Over the top outrage

1 hour ago, DemonWA said:

Lethal hit the nail on the head on this one. Complete non issue 

Yep. Mountain, molehill

Wouldn't have been noticed had the media not worked themselves in to a lubed-up frenzy.

Love the way Lethal smacked down Tom Morris last night. Morris talked like an excited child, Matthews talked with the wisdom of experience

I like the cut of his jib, but not the cut of his hair!

6 hours ago, Gawndy the Great said:

**WARNING If you are triggered by trading out Oliver, or general trade discussions while in season (as the thread is titled) please look away now or refrain from having a crack. This is pure speculation aimed at looking to improve our list.

If we ended up with a scenario where a net result was something like :

OUT: Oliver, Petty

IN: LDU, Lukosius, improved Round 1 Pick

Oliver >> GCS for Pick 7 (current) + Lukosius

Petty + Our 1st Pick (Pick 10) >> Adelaide for Pick 4 (Contentious i know but even this feels like a bad deal for Adelaide)

Pick 7 + F2 >> LDU

These are not necessarily upgrades per se, but would give us a different look. An alternative scenario, focused more on rebuilding from draft would be something like:

Oliver >> Hawks R1 (Pick 6) + F1
Petty + Our 1st Pick (Pick 10) >> Adelaide for Pick 4

This would give us Pick 4,6 this year and 2 first rounders in 2025 draft. Honestly this would be a ballsy call, but the one that id prefer. It will give us the top ups we need for the next decade and allow us another crack at the flag before the end of the decade. We could also look to target a bunch of FA's for key positions as we did with Lever and May. 

Love the scenarios GtG.

I think Oliver is not worth much, unfortunately. We won't get pick 6 and F1 from hawks. We might get F1, around pick 9 or 10, but I honestly think that might be too much. Most non-Dees fans think he's damaged goods and his best is behind him.

After this year Petty would get a high 2nd rounder. If we were to use this as a way of moving from 10 to 4 it would be a win

Is it true that Adelaide offered 2 x 1sts for Petty last year? Sheesh!

5 hours ago, picket fence said:

I'll come out of Hiatus for one and only one post on this.

DON'T DO IT GOODY, NOT THIS WEEK!!

I watched him very closely yesterday and he played an excellent game. He knows where to run, clunks marks and yesterday just could not miss with his laser like kicks for goal. I would be very tempted to play him week after Brisbane, vs West Coast but DONT be tempted this week Simon. Stick with Bailey hairstyle and The Heartbreaker, (even though both are playing terribly and should be dropped) if you must, but I'll tell you something else, This kid will be a better long term player than either of them, GOSPEL !!! Also memo, AMW Is good to go NOW, should have been played WEEKS ago, got some mongrel and skills, excellent mover. Finally  Fullarton. Mc Adams, and Billings why did we recruit them??? Laurie will also struggle to make it. Verall might. Kentfield is a long way of but with a solid preseason who knows, Shache?? sorry gives little. So cupboard is a little bare at present!

End of rant for another period of time!

Don't play Jeffo this week Goody that's all I gots to say!

I don't mind Jeffo spending a few more weeks at Casey. He's developing very nicely and I see no reason to put him into the seniors until he is absolutely cherry ripe. 

Such a lovely set shot and the soft hands and one grabs in marking contests are really promising. 

I agree that a tall forward who is lightly framed should spend all the time he needs at VFL learning leading patterns and body positioning. He's quite different from JvR, which is a good thing long term.

Jeffo could have 10+ years on the red and blue if he continues to improve. Wait till he's knocking hard on the door 

Here's his highlights from the weekend:
https://www.afl.com.au/video/1157488

1 minute ago, Gawndy the Great said:

What about the 75m 50m penalty? Roos got a good 3-4 goals from absolute howlers tonight. 

AFL: "Better TV"

13 minutes ago, DeeZee said:

Wish I knew what was wrong with Clarry, I think this is the crux of lot of our problems .

I know he had a limited pre season , but I really thought he might have stepped up in Tracs absence.

He seems to have no go in him anymore.

Was tagged heavily by Philips. Max said Clarry went to LDU or another mid to make it two on one and release Jack Viney

✅️

5 minutes ago, Redleg said:

AFL site saying it was an umpiring mistake.

I'd love to hear what is said into the umpires earpiece during the game. I've often wondered if there's encouragement to 'mix things up' a bit

Jeez, I wish clarry would occasionally lower his eyes and not slap the ball onto his boot blindly just to gain meters, temporarily

2 minutes ago, Biffen said:

Give him a break. They ran out of hair spray in the change rooms.

How would you feel?

Oh - that's right Kojack. You don't have those problems.

 

 

Who loves ya, baby?...

How the hell can we look so spent and unable to run in the last quarter when we've just come off the bye?

3 minutes ago, layzie said:

The real Jack Viney stood up 

Yes, and quite a few sat down

3rd week in a row Fritter has been a whitches hat

13 hours ago, Lil_red_fire_engine said:

I also want LDU but cant see it being til hes out of contract in 2025. Let’s assume LDU agrees to come end of this season what are you willing to give this year whilst he is still in contract that Nolrth will accept. Unless something crazy happens Nth will get a top of band pick for him if he leaves under FA. So to do it a year early it would need to be more than they expect to get the following year to be in their interests. 

If LDU requested a trade at the end of this year, regardless of contract status, I'd hope we do whatever it takes to get him. North wont keep him if he's not 100% buy in.

We have a first rounder this year, next year and in 2026 (assuming multiple years becomes available). We might also get a decent pick for Petty, if his form turns around 🤞, and he wants to leave. Some of these would make it work.

In short, we'll make it happen if he wants to come. Getting him to commit would be the hard part

22 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

or, alternatively, gawn is as professional and even better than goldstein and still playing when he's 37

yr a long time retired, and there's no reason to think he can't keep going for a long time yet

Gawn has done two knees and gets bashed from piller to post every week. Can't see him running around for us beyond another 2 years.

We definitely need a succession plan at the end of this year, preferably not involving a 2 x AA, soon to be 3 x AA.

Imo Moyle could be a good target

I read that the youngest McCartin brother is showing some good form down the Western Districts (Lorne?), albeit as a mature aged player (25). Swans and Pies have sent list managers down to watch him play.

Wonder if we are looking at him

1 hour ago, Big Col said:

We had 4 picks within the first 20 and six overall at that draft. Max was taken as our fifth pick behind Scully, Trengove, Gisberts and Tapscott. Imagine if you had a crystal ball and we had selected:
Martin, Cunnington, Fyfe, Gawn (of course), Duncan and picked up Dylan Grimes with pick #1 in the pre-season draft.  We'd have won six premierships with that list, although in second thoughts we probably would have debuted them all on Queens Birthday and scarred them for life.

They would have been Melbournised and delisted within 3 years

If we aren't going hard for LDU and Battle then I will spew up. Get them and Moyle plus 2 or 3 picks in the draft. That will top us up nicely.

Surely with Gus, BBB and possibly Tommo, Tmac and Petty leaving we have cap space?

2 hours ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

• Crowbots sack Nicks
• Goodwin to Crowbots
• Western Bullflogs sack Bevo
• Bevo to Dees
• Crowbots appoint Roo coach, president and CEO

3 hours ago, BDA said:

Not sure why anybody would want to be an umpire. Thankless job.

Part time job, can still have a career outside

Paid over $100,000 per year as senior umpire

Keeps fitness up

Feeds the control freak ego

18 hours ago, DeeZone said:

The absolute worse part of this is that all four Umpires Froze under Collingwood’s Steely Stare. They didn’t blow the whistle to acknowledge the Mark????

Giants in the PF and Lions in the GF were hard done by as well. Guess who their opponent was?

Maybe its the influence of the ferral pies crowd, but it's definitely a pattern

18 hours ago, whatwhat say what said:

got fined for drunk driving in the months leading into the draft, from memory

You are right.

Not dismissing the seriousness of DUI, but it's hardly a character flaw worthy of passing on him

On 17/06/2024 at 08:22, seventyfour said:

We can all dream about getting some superstar, but the reality is that elite players rarely move while already in their prime.

• 2023: None
• 2022: Taranto
• 2021: None
• 2020: Treloar, Cameron, Daniher
• 2019: Kelly
• 2018: Lynch, Neale, Hogan, May

Slim pickings.

 

2023: Ben McKay, X Duursma, Taylor Adams, Brody Grundy

2022: Brody Grundy, Izak Rankine, Jason Horne Francis, Luke Jackson, Josh Dunkley, Tom Mitchell, Jacob Hopper, Taranto

2021: Adam Cerra, Jordan Dawson

2020: Adam Saad, Peter Wright, Treloar, Cameron, Daniher

Whether these guys are 'elite' or not is always up for debate

Some were involved in MFC trades, some were going home to other states, some have only come good after moving clubs, some have had setbacks, some are yet to fulfill their potential

The but the bigger question is would they have improved our list significantly? Even if we landed 2 or 3 of them? 

I think so.

Putting the mess of Brody Grundy aside, we've been poor at trading in since Steven May came on board 6 years ago.

Are we on the nose?

15 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Finn was a Bulldogs supporter.

Nice get, Dazz