Moonshadow

2 hours ago, daisycutter said:

well that's about $1M worth .... or about 3" of tunnel construction in vic

Or what ex premiers are donating towards legal fees to look after their own

1 hour ago, jnrmac said:

Thy are appealing that? He upended MacGrath and kicked him.

Wow.

But the biomechanics expert will testify that he had no other options and kicking is a football act... 🤔

1 hour ago, John Crow Batty said:

Impressed with BBB’s mobility. Shades of 2021. At one stage in the third quarter he was deep in the back pocket hustling the ball over the boundary line. No one seemed to notice. 

He was in the back pocket as part of his turning circle after a lead from FF

🤣

3 minutes ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

What pleased me most about the win was the way we played / tried to play. Although not perfect at times ie wrong option, poor disposal, too slow moving the ball, we played a game style that can take us deep into September.

Not a fan of JVR in the ruck, rucking inside fwd 50 is one thing but not lining up at centre bounces.

Vintage BBB & TMac, Chandler firing again, Oliver getting ready to explode.

Thought we had our smalls in better positions today at times but little things like Kosi flying for a mark then no one at ground level when the ball spills. 
 

Not getting carried away, good win but a few things to work on.

Agree, not happy with JVR rucking in the centre or around the ground. Will be interesting to see what the FD do when Fullerton is ready for this level

It's a membership 'replacement' game, is that right?

Yes, increased midfield time for Kossie is great, but he's our best small forward. Kinda robbing Peter to pay Paul, especially watching BBB and others create multiple crumbling opportunities today 

26 minutes ago, Gorgoroth said:

Sure he would have had a bag if he kicks straight… but how often does he? 
I mean I would have had a bag too if I was 25 years younger, A foot taller and any good at kicking goals.

He kicked a bag against us, was it last year or '22, including the sealer

He'd be a good addition to our list if we could land him.

JVR and JUH together... mmmmm...

How much did the addition of BBB straighten up our forward line?!!! Meant JVR wasn't the defender's focus. Created contests for our smalls in the forward line, Chin, Kossie and Nibbler. And that sidestep, my lordie... stick him in the midfield!!!

24 minutes ago, binman said:

Give me a spell.

I didn't name names.

And I wasnt rude and I didn't take any pot shots.

Unless you call the truth a pot shot.

And frankly I'm heartily sick of posters spewing vitriol against my club after a loss.

And then going silent after an impressive win.

If you are gonna call out the club - repeatedly- after a loss then show some spine and put your hand up you might have got it wrong.

It's the opposite of fair weather supporters.

Again, enjoy the win rather than focusing on negatives.

Life is too short and fortunes can change quickly when it's still only round 1 (or 2 for us)

What did you think of Billings' game? I thought his positioning and kicking were excellent. Fantastic pressure acts as well. What a great start in red n blue for him

1 minute ago, binman said:

Keen to hear the thoughts of those posters who practically wrote our season off and blasted the coach and players after our loss last week.

Some remarkably definitive comments were made, given we were beaten on the home deck of a pretty good team that the bookies had as slight fav.

You know who you are.

Petty response.

Enjoy the win rather than jumping to pot shot

Tmac and BBB been drinking from the fountain of youth?

The new bar set up in Betty Cuthbert area is as bad as the umpiring today

1 hour ago, Deebymistake said:

Move over Goodwin, Moonshadow is our man!  You would probably do the job for quite a bit less coin too!

Maybe less if they throw in a meat tray

Would be extremely disappointed if we weren't going hard for him. 

Does he like it plonked on top of his head 25 times per game?

On 10/03/2024 at 22:20, pitmaster said:

And a football action.

Surprised Cox didn't jump onto Mummy with a shoulder to the head, given Coll get the green light and all

3 hours ago, Smokey said:

A glaring issue in our list has been, for many years, quality ball users in our midfeild. That then amplifies our issue of having no elite power forward. 

Love Clarry, he is a generational player. But if letting him go would fix the issues above then of course we should entertain it. 

Unless we get a replacement who is as good a ball user as Clarry is an extractor, then that theory is kaput.

I'd rather work on improving Clarry's foot skills than trading him. It worked for Chunk, his kicking early on was woeful 

Salem, Billings, Rivers and Windsor running through the middle and delivering i50 should help too

Forward strategies are more the issue. Ban the long bomb, always look at a kick to advantage, get injured/suspended players on the park. More to it than that obviously, but would certainly help

He's in a big contract with many years to go. Ball's in our court

On 11/03/2024 at 22:37, titan_uranus said:

Well that wasn't really how I read "It could be argued that both Hogan and Jackson were busts as key forwards, in that we couldn't keep them at the club".

It sounds like your true argument is "we failed to deal with Hogan and Jackson leaving". I would disagree with that assessment re: Hogan, as converting him into May was precisely what we needed to do at the end fo 2018 and it paid off for 2021. For Jackson, we got the picks but whether or not they work out for us is clearly TBD.

And are you seriously calling JVR a "scrawny, hunch-backed 19 yr old barely noticeable at VFL level"?

Man alive! Can't get it, can you?

Helps if you know the physique of our players: Jefferson

Whatever, I'm moving on

15 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Next Summer we must poach

Contracts are now nothing more than a bargaining tool. 
We will have serious Cash to spend 

Not sure that we are quite the destination club some consider ourselves to be.

As you mention, money talks, but when was the last time we poached an A grader or a serious young star? May and Lever feel like an eternity ago. Maybe Grundy (say no more)?

We were prepared to pay $600k for Grundy, when we already had the best ruck in the game, yet can't knock on the door of a power forward???

52 minutes ago, george_on_the_outer said:

Because there were none available come free agent trading period. 

Were there none approaching the last year of their contract before FA in the last 7 years that we could've had a massive crack at?

Ben Brown is the only one we've been able to poach, and blind Freddie knew his knee was rooted

Personally, I don't mind if they are FA, year before FA or simply enticed by a big wad of cash mid contract. We need to go big at the end of this year. 

Off the top of my head, those who have re-signed or left for other clubs in the last 7 years: King x 2, Tex Walker, Tom Lynch, McStay, Koschitzki, 2m Peter, Casboult. There's probably heaps more. Not saying all of them fit our needs, but it would be interesting to find out which (if any) we had a serious play for.

31 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

are you kidding?

Only 8,000 at ground, but a couple of hundred on the oval at the lunch break

Anyone watching the second test from NZ on tv?

Lunch time day 4, Aust five down with 100 to win. 

You'd think curators would look after the ground surface, maybe sweep the pitch, keep people off the grass... But no, spectators permitted all over the oval during lunch, kids bowling and running on the pitch. Amazing really.

3 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

It could be argued, but any such argument would be weak. 

Hogan brought supporter interest back during the Roos era, left us for a host of personal reasons which we had no chance of changing, and we “cashed” him in for Steven May, without whom we’d never have won the flag.

Jackson then also helped us win the flag and we “cashed” him in for three top picks.

You missed the point I was making 

Whilst we got short term return from Hogan and Jackson, and some picks in return, their long term absence has left a big hole in that end of the ground for us.

Hence why we're now pinning our hopes on an injury prone key back who has played a handful of games forward, a scrawny, hunch-backed 19 yr old barely noticeable at VFL level, and an ex basketballer that Brisbane were prepared to trade for pick 47

We have arguably the best back line and midfield in the AFL, but a bottom 6 forward line. I think it cost us the flag last year, regardless of injury excuses

6 hours ago, rjay said:

Not sure we've sold the farm in early draft picks.

We've been pretty successful.

Weid is the only top 10 KPF of recent times that's been a bust.

It could be argued that both Hogan and Jackson were busts as key forwards, in that we couldn't keep them at the club. Whilst we did get decent picks in return for them, it has clearly left a vacuum in personnel and development in that area of our list.

And before anyone claims Jackson is a ruck, he would've been a key forward and 2nd fiddle ruck to Max and currently is that to Darcy (when Darcy's not injured)

Terrible luck for a brave, selfless act