nutbean

Agree with your first two paragraphs and vehemently disagree with the last paragraph. If you want to lift penalties for striking to the head then all well and good but you do not do it "by example". The incident was no better or worse than Houli's and maybe Houli gets one week less for his clean skin record over so many years. But with Bugg you give him a comparable punishment and then and only then the AFL state - we are lifting the penalties. The tribunal just looks amateurish due to their inconsistency and Bugg can feel aggrieved, not because he got a hefty penalty which he deserved, but because the penalty does not square away with other similar actions.

On reflection I think he should be sacked. Certain employment comes with higher standards due to the very nature of the employment. Get done for .05 working for the TAC and you can expect to get the boot. You have heard umpteen times that police who are brought before the judicial system for major crimes get more severe penalties, not only for their crime but for "breaching community trust". The AFL has a standard to maintain ( albeit a rather tarnished image) and it's employee's must act in a certain way pertaining to anything game or league related.

This is exactly my thoughts. It is not the length of the suspensions that we have suffered this year that irks me. It is the gross inconsistency when comparing these suspensions with other cases that have gone before the MRP and the Tribunal. Houli and Bugg incidents fall into the same categorisation for mine and what applied to one should have applied to the other.

I have been a huge believer that our development of players and the club in general was so poor in the past that many players we drafted who would have probably made it in the current environment failed miserably. It took a footballer of extraordinary determination like Jones to make it in the cesspool that was our club. "Your are a top draft pick - go and play football" is not the way to develop players. To me Roo's greatest legacy is the teaching and developing culture he installed in the club - teachers the likes of McCarthy being onboard cannot be emphasised enough as key to our current upward trend. Having said that, we have certainly opted towards "competitive beasts" in our drafting of late and that has paid dividends.

Disagree - at his best, Kent certainly has the pace you mentioned, was good for at least a goal or two as your said but he has never ever been one of our best forward pressure players and that is why he has been playing in magoos. Jeffy's lapses in defensive pressure last year landed him in the two's . This seems to be a non negotiable for Goodwin. The comments from Plapp have suggested that Kent has been working on "certain areas of his game" and doing much better - it is no secret what that is - forward pressure - something that has been absent.

Yup. It will be decided at the selection table. If they go with a Wagner over the likes of Kent or Kennedy then that will pretty much tell us the answer and as others have said I would think Hunt would spend some time forward. My only hope is that if they bring in JKH it is for a midfield rotation not as a Gartlett replacement. I know we want versatility but JKH just isn't a small forward. His productive VFL form is on the back of him running in the midfield.

I am in the minority - I like Hunt behind the ball, breaking the lines. Whilst I have no problem with him pinch hitting for small periods of time forward I don't like him in the tightest and most congested part of the ground. I believe his best value to the team is his running where he has some space to do so- off half back or the wing.

To be frank I am over it - staging ...not staging...guilty..not guilty.. My only concern now is that it does not affect his game going forward. That is all care about.

The way I see it Dom is behind Jones, Viney and Oliver as our in and under mid - makes him our 4th tier mid. If Petracca become a full time mid then then Dom is 5th tier. Do I like someone of his quality as our 4th or 5th best mid ? you bet. As long as all our players are playing well i am more than happy for a player to surpass another because of form and ability. If we get another mid that offers more than Tyson then great. At this stage we don't.

Putting to one side the whole victim blaming the one thing that I still don't get is the notion that by viewing the connection made to Oliver's chin you can make judgement on what the subsequent affect has to be. You see innocuous hits in all manner of sports that have completely different end result that initial viewing of the hit may have suggested. On the flip side - you see players completely poleaxed and then get up like nothing happened. (I recall yelling at my TV for Neymar to get up and stop sooking after he copped a slight knee in the back to find out later he had a fractured vertebrae)

Just a question - "he hammed it up to make sure the umps knew about it". What I think is being lost in all of this is the timing. You stage and dive in the match to get a free kick, maybe to kick or save a goal. This was after the siren ! The likes of Lindsay Thomas stage to win free kicks. There was zero reward on offer for Oliver "diving or staging".

Nescio quid sit

True...except at this point of time, Frawley has a premiership medallion hanging around his neck and Jones doesn't. The window of opportunity is very small. As a supporter you want loyalty. However do you begrudge Brian Lake? There is the argument that if good players stay they may help you win a premiership but bottom line is that Lake won medallions at the Hawks and the dogs did not win one whilst he was playing.

Well...you are half right. I'm old.....

The little bald bloke out of Benny Hill ? He has taken many a slapping on the noggin from Benny so he doesn't mind it physical.

I think anyone who gets too invested in anything posted by anonymous people with anonymous sources on a footy forum only has themselves to blame. I enjoy reading them but take them for what they are - hearsay. It is the same for players that are coming to the club and leaving the club. Until it is in black and white from the club that something has happened all these type of post are are entertainment which may may even raise the hopes a little ( or dash them a little) but I certainly don't take them as gospel truth ( for whats its worth I don't the gospel truth as truth either but that's a whole different argument)

Saw them at the Holler festival at the caravan club on a warm Saturday afternoon. They blew everyone away. They are selling out show after show - after seeing them I understand why.

New kids on the block ( a statement - not the horrible boy band) If anyone gets a chance to see the Teskey Brothers I highly recommend they do. They are the bom-diggerty.

it is pretty simple - read the stuff you like and skip over the stuff that irks you.

The point is that JKH hasn't killed at VFL like he has been of late and hasn't had a full time role in the VFL as an onballer. As I said before , not sure if he will make an AFL footballer but he is great VFL form playing in the position he is best suited to and then is an opening in the team for that very role.

I would be staggered if he wasn't the replacement for Jones. He has been blitzing it at VFL as midfielder which is what is he is. Never has been and never will be a small forward. I have no idea whether he will or won't make it at senior level. But we need a midfield replacement for Jones and JKH has more than put his hand up for that role.

I love Demonland. I can now work Godwin's Law and Ad Hominem into conversations.

It is the conundrum. Crazies all over the world doing unspeakable acts in the name of their religion. The three monotheistic religion's text's all have abhorrent sections advocating various forms of punishment including death for what we consider today, inconsequential actions. Call to arms against non believers and severe punishment for transgressors. I read an interesting book on Temple Mount written some 15 years ago. It talked about the number of plots that were foiled each year to blow up Al Aqsa mosque and The Dome of the Rock. The vast majority of these plots were financed by fundamentalist Christians in the US - backing fundamentalist Jews to blow up these structures in order to remove Muslims and bring on the rapture. Insanity. Until recently I held the view that if moderate religious views are held then all good and well - each to their own. But there is so much wrong being done in the name of religions I am now of the view that we would be a much better place if religions just didn't exist.

And importantly - where they get the ball - inside mids, in the heat, rushed to dispose, will generally have a higher clanger rate.