binman

For anyone who has kayo and wants a little more dees fix i highly recommend the kayo mini for the game. Not sure why, but the volyme of the commentary is way down compared to the full replay and the on ground sounds way up. Its really interesting to hear the players and boy the hits sound big.

Sure nev, if you want to just read stats and not trust what your eyes tell you. And in my opinion brown's swans game was far superior to anything weed has dished up this season. But it us ok if we disagree about that. I can't speak for others but I'm not judgint him against unrealistic expectations. He is top 10 draft pick who should be delivering by this stage in his career. And he isn't. Should he be dominating? Not every match, sure. But the occasional one yes. That's why we gave up a top 10 pick. His peers are Naughton, Oscar Allen, Marshall. I want to se tbat level of output. And I want to see it now. He's had enough time. Time to deliver.

Sure. But 3 games ago is ok isn't it? Brown well against the swans and was an important factor in our win with key goals, strong marks and big aerial contests. He imposed himself on the game Facts are that nothing weed has done since coming in had been at that level. He hadn't imposed himself at all. And of his 40 odd games I reckon I could count on one hand games has. So his 'merit', such as it is all on potential. But let's leave it nev Weed is in. And will likely stay in this week The coaches agree with you. So your case is strong I sincerely hope he imposes himself against the lions and really puts it all together.

Sure. But there is a lot more to forward half pressure than tackles

Fair comments. And to be honest much of my frustration with weed is how talented he is. Which why I think a comparison to naughton is fair. He has the tools. And I really hope he fulfills his talent. A good start would be upping his intensity. Jogging after opponents is a bad look.

Nuance is ok nev. Everything doesn't have to be black and white. It is ok for me to introduce a discussion about weed comparing poorly to naughton. Even if, shock horror, it is in posts related to a discussion of brown v weed. Fell free not engage in said discussion. And on black and white and things that are strange i find comments such ad this one perplexing: 'On merit, Weid should be in ahead of Brown atm' You say that as if it is fact. Its your opinion. Not fact. A number of posters thought weed should have been dropped not Brown. Not unreasonable given how poor he has been in the ladt two games. And you seem to be putting a lot of stock in the Brown's case game. Maybe their were mitigating circumstances. Maybe he was carrying an injury. Maybe the coaches told him to hold back in case he needed to be called up for the ones. Maybe he struggled to combine with mitch. Who knows. Look, I agree he is unlikely to replace weed this week. But as I said in my first post on this topic I think Brown is a better footballer than weed and I'd prefer him in tbe side than weed. And he compares pretty favourable to naughton too. Last year was a write off. But he has numbers that weed can only dream of. In the 2017, 2018 and 2019 home and away seasons Brown finished 3rd, 2nd and 2nd in the Coleman medal and kicked a combined total of 188 goals across 66 games, the most of any player in the AFL over that time period. Bit of merit right there.

True. Weed has zero chance to be named AA full forward this season. Or taking Naughton's spot in the 40 man squad for that matter.

I reckon hibberd will get him. Seems to be their go to player now to lock down dangerous small and mediums. Took Martin, papley and betts. Can go with Cameron.

I was being facetious. I meant Brown's Casey game. As I said in a previous post I think they wedged themselves They are not going to bring Brown in but I think he shouldn't have gone out in rbe first place. But to he honest I find both players a bit underwhelming and wonder if DeeSpencer might be on the money and come finals we revert to our rounds 1-5 set up. Weed should be compared to naughton, not brown. That's the level he should be at. Both the same height. Both drafted at 9. Same position. Naughton is miles ahead https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?playerStatus1=A&tid1=12&pid1=4171&fid1=S&playerStatus2=A&tid2=8&pid2=6491&fid2=S&type=A Sam is two years older and so is running out of excuses for all those game he 'nearly' starts clunking his marks or kicking goals.

There's a bit of a contradiction there smokey. For all we know, brown did exactly what was asked of him by the coaches.

Pretty clearly edged him? Based on those stats? One, those stats are basically the same. Two, as you know stats are just stats. They only tell part of the story. Watching the game I thought Brown had more impact. In large part because he drew more defenders to him, creating more opportunities for the smalls. But as you say, let's agree to disagree. And the coaches agree with you so you have a good case.

Speaking of clash jumpers, the pies and cats jumpers looked incredibly similar today

Call me crazy, but if it can't be played at tbe Alice and we get the gate I reckon we should pick the gabba. It would be a bold move. A statement. Anyone. Any where. Any time. We play ok there. Know it well after last year. And would get to play in front of a packed house. Good practice for finals. And as a home game all the qld demon fans could go, so it wouldn't be a totally lions crowd. Would have a much, much better vibe than bloody giants stadium with 33 people there.

You live in Alice don't you rgrs? I'm assuming its a pretty important match for the nt government in terms of promoting tourism. Particularly now that people can't travel overseas. A genuine Friday night blockbuster. Massive ratings. The best bang for bucks of any of these matches. And it would be a big hit for the local economy. A friend looked at accommodation with thought of flying up. Completely full. The dees are in iso all week and will have daily tests probably. Could fly in on Friday morning and book a hotel area and be isolated. Then bus to the game. Flt out next day. What's the sense about the likelihood of it going ahead? Or how keen the government is for it to?

Agree with the first paragraph. Not the second. Brown was the incumbent. Both were average against the blues, but if anything Brown was better. So in my view deserved to retain his spot. Obviously the selectors don't agree, so who am I to say. I agree in a general sense with your comments about not needing every forward to be a pressure freak. And that is not what I expect of weed. But for mine he simply doesn't play with enough intensity and spends too much time at half pace But his benchmark should be tmac. Late in a quarter (can't recall which maybe the third?) tmac flat out sprinted for 200 metres to apply some pressure to a dogs plsyer running free through the centre square. Didn't quite get there but put enough pressure on for the kick inside 50 to be shanked. And we got an intercept mark. Even it hadn't caused a turnover the effort was inspiring. They will show that vision to the team. To be fair to weed they will also show his great run down tackle late in the second. But they will also show weed in his review of his half arsed effort near the start of tbe last 'chasing" durea at hb. Look at the vision at about 18:30. Jogged, where if he had been intense and really focused he would have been able to lay a tackle - or at least been able to disrupt the kick. He lucked out because the kick inside 50 was poor and didn't vmcost tbe goal it should have. A goal that might have given them a sniff. Simply not good enough. And strange from a player fighting for his spot in the team.

A couple of things nev. I meant it is woeful that both of our key forwards apply poor levels of pressure. They both concern me. And I understand your point about competition for spots, but by the very same logic it was a strange decision to drop Brown not weed for the crows game. Brown was picked first on form. And both had almost identical stats and impact (which was not great) against the blues. So why drop Brown? I suspect it was to give weed a run at afl level. And have a look at the set up with him as the go to forward. I'm not advocating Brown come in. But they wedged themselves a bit. And bottom line Brown is a better footballer. Takes his marks. Is stronger in the contest. Is a harder match up that demands more defensive coverage. And is a proven goal kicker. Brown has the runs on the board. Weed doesn't. Because neither apply enough pressure you can't have both in the same team. And without question Id have Brown over weed.

It is such an incrediblely stupid analysis. And I use the word advisedly. Like basketball and soccer, when you have a good lead against a dangerous opposition the last thing tbe dees wanted to do was go fast. The only chance the dogs had in the second half was a fast game, with lots of goals. Like the blues game where they blues continued to play fast rather than play tempo. Such smart footy by us. Keep the shape and defensive run. AND slow it down to suck minutes out of the clock. The goals the dogs kicked in the second half (all game really) were all hard work and against the run of plsy. And critically the best tbey could do was get 2 in a row (and then only once i think). And we responded to any goals to keep the four goal buffer. Which if brerereton bothered doing any work at all, that has been how we have played all season, with the hawks game the only one where we kept the pedal to the medal (and even then that was really more about the hawks completey stopping). How does that peanut accept his wages every week. Embarrassing

And there's the problem. Both sets of numbers are woeful

Referred pain. Don't think it is very serious

Just turned on pies cats games. Yikes. Perfect conditions and 45 points at half time. And pies goalless And two jumpers that clash

Exactly. Once is a outlier. Twice a coincidence. Any more and it is a pattern. Makes for tough games to watch. Unless of course you are a dees fan.

All good points. It is all about the pressure. A crazy thing though is I saw after the game we were 167 on that pressure meter. But they were 180! I assume that rating is an average across different points in rbe game. Suggests their pressure was better. At least in terms of applied pressure (tackles, referred pressure, one percenters, spoils, smothers etc). What i doubt it measures is the pressure of looking up and having sfa options to kick forward to. We cover and spread so well teams are constantly under pressure to try and find a way through, or around us. The dogs are the best in tbe league at doing so. But were all at sea against us.

To really feed my addiction, this year I have really embraced catch up radio for specific segments. Makes it so easy for an addict to get his dees fix. And because we are flying, heaps of any given segment is about us! And as a bonus no ads. Radio catch up musts: Max gawn extended interview on rsn breakfast, fortnightly from 7am. Every Monday morning from 7am on rsn jimmy bartel leads a review of the the weekend's games. He rates the dees and we get a good crack. Good tactical stuff. Tuesday rocketveade reviews the weekends game on rsn breakfast Leppa on Tuesday on wheatley on sen. Jennings thurs on wheatley on sen (though I'm not sure why, but he really annoys me) Friday night on sen i have come to really like jordon Lewis. And if super keen all the radio stations that cover one of our games have post match interviews etc All of the above can be found on the relevant websites. However my favourite two hours of radio is Sunday 12-2 on the abc. 12-1 Corbin Middlemas, Brett Deledio and Lauren Arnell on Grandstand AFL Sunday. Fantastic. Genuinely interesting and they have a great chemistry. My favourite radio show Then 1-2 is Alistair Nicholson, Jake niall and someone else. More about the game in general and politics etc. But good nonetheless

My name is binman. And I am a dees media content addict. But that is not the problem. The problem is I can't get enough dees media content. A great thing about playing Friday night games is allmosy post game media up till about 1pm sat is about that game. From last nights game if you have kayo i'd recommend first crack. The first half of last night's episode was all about the dees. Great stuff. Love the video to explain stuff. And I have to I really like montages analysis. Doesdy hurt he has been pumping up the dees and our game plan for weeks. On radio I don't like sen as a rule. And never listened to it all ladt year. But crunch time 12-1 or so on sat is good,. Del Santo and maher leve me cold. And I'm ambivalent about wheatley, but he knows his stuff and is well prepared. But the ace in the pack leppa, who is just fantastic. Smart, explains things well and discusses systems and tactics in a way that is easy to get.