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  1. For the next few weeks the midfield will have to be instructed to completely play off the opposition rucks, get to the ball first (not tag) and man up one-for-one at all ball-ups

    In fact with effectively no rucks the play should be more predictable. Ruck tactics should be to just minimise the opportunity of opposing rucks to get the big forward punch by close body and smothering tactics

    It will be interesting to see how we tackle this problem

    I have been thinking about the same thing and i think we have a few options, these are all provided that the rib injury to martin is not going to prevent him from playing this weekend,

    1) if martin is able to play, we could play a rotating ruck system, with players such as Martin, Dunn, Newton, Warnock, Sylvia, but basically just running to the fall of the ball leaving the opposition no clear jump at the ball, this has to be done carefully because if eyes are on the opponent it is a free kick. We would be really trying to run hard and create with these players, making the ruckmen accountable, and avoiding the long kickout to a one on one with say Dunn and Goldstein. We would need to be moving the ball quickly and hitting these players on the lead often due to their athletic advantage.

    2) play almost 4 midfielders and try to create a secondary stoppage, this is handy as in the secondary stoppage it is more of a wrestle, and although players will probably be out wrestled by a bigger opponent, we can use the third man up effectively, with players like watts, dunn and sylvia coming in from over the side trying to get the hit out or knocking it on to space. Flaw with this is that we are basically conceding the first hit out or trying to shark the opponents hit out which is much harder to do than receiving a tap from our ruckman.

    3) Give Martin and Gawn a crack together, it is not like we are coming up against Sandi or Cox and really Petrie and Goldstein are fine players, but they are not the most formidable ruck paring, so basically we just send them out to have a crack, try and break even, but really work on creating a contest, and it also means that when kicking long out of defence we have a better marking option. This also could be done with Newton as a sub, and swapped at half time, barring a serious injury, this could work as he would have fresher legs and can jump and present frocing contest and the petrie or goldstein to chase him, maybe Campbell as the sub aswell, fitness wont be there but if he plays as the sub and plays half a game he can surely run it out and provide a good contest in the ruck.

    it will be interesting to see how Bails goes about it, this is really a test of his coaching and the depth to our side.

  2. where do people get their information from? Watts would be the most closely followed player we have and most would know that is not the case at all.

    As for Cook having to play half back because of Fev, I hope this will push Melbourne to cut ties with Casey. They need to learn we cannot be stuffed around like this. in fact after we just went tall, tall, tall, tall in the draft it defies logic Gotch and co would need to recruit a fat Fev.

    Give us experience to learn off? you have to be joking.

    i can recall both watts and addam maric playing in the backling in stages throughout vfl, aswell as watts playing on the wing, it is common place that players will be played in different roles to learn about the game, i.e, leading patterns, etc, but also to play defensively, chasing and tackling.

  3. Not Russian! Biggest injury MFC has suffered for quite a while. :(

    Throw Jurrah in, man has wings.

    and the rig of a 12 year old boy, sure he can jump but his 84 kilo frame jumping into someone 100 kilos + is only going to lead to another, and more likely longer term injury.

    My plan is we elevate Macnamara, let him elbow both petrie and goldstein behing play, he will only be suspended for two weeks, unless he elbows them while they are on the bottom of the pack it is then deemed as fair so he wouldnt get reported, he could kick them both in the nuts aswell only cop two weeks, possibly bump them out of play and break their jaw, no weeks, but whatever we do, do not tackle them!

    but the crux of it, newton, or martin would then dominate the ruck, and we would have a great combo of moloney/newton.

  4. Really don't like the sound of an All Australian U18 CHF playing in defence on account of Fevola.

    this is regularly done to learn the ropes, watts played off the half back flank in his first season i know for certain, its more so to learn what to do, and where to lead etc

  5. its definately a bit of a shake up, i knew we were in trouble when someone posted along the lines of

    "after this week looks like it will only be scully on our injury list"

    rough but interesting to see how we go about it, we may be able to work out of it i think.....

    probs go with martin, newton, and then dunn and sylvia and watts do their bits!

    rough week, but hoping we are up to it

  6. what irks me is adelaide will play dangerfield this week, and the reason he is reported was due to high damage, if dangerfield doesnt play for three weeks it would make the punishment somewhat acceptable, but still unreasonable at best, how he can get three weeks for that when two elbows behind the play only get 1 and 2 week suspensions!

  7. yes I understand he was elevated because we are one short on veterans list

    ...but why did they elevate him at start of season rather than when required? Is it because the rules state that veteran-short elevations must be nominated at start of season? If so this seems a silly rule.

    lower wages ;)

  8. agree on most points, but i think bate is good for our forward line structure. Similar to why Millar gets a game at punt road, i think Bate should keep getting games for us as he is a more mature body who frees up Watts and Jurrah

    this is hardly true, they still played rutten on watts for a majority of the game and bate still did diddily squat, apart from that one time he layed a few tackles

    personally though i like dunn, i feel that he is a good player, and is far more important to our squad than bate, and he adds a bit of menace to our squad.

  9. This is why i hate most Melbourne supporters.

    Maric's kicking and football nouse were great today, just look at the 40m stab pass to a leading Jack Watts. Had Grimes done that, there would be 5 different threads about it.

    agree, frustrates me so much, his kicking today was damaging, and had many score involvements, what more could he do?

  10. Green - up and about

    Warnock - average at best

    Jones - has great attitude

    Bartram - strong through middle

    Watts - great second quarter

    Gysberts - always showing more

    Frawley - marshaled the backline

    Trengove - tackles always stuck

    Sylvia - great second half

    Dunn - worked very hard

    Petterd - always provided contest

    Grimes - i may cry

    Maric - four quarter effort

    Garland - was rarely beaten

    Moloney - elite stoppage machine

    Jurrah - good last half

    Wonaeamirri - not his best

    Tapscott - strong all day

    Davey - finally got space

    Jamar - won all day

    Bail - my favourite player!

    Bate - worst on ground

  11. Still unconvinced.

    Positive- he found a lot of space. Negative- it's because he refused to man up on anyone during our defensive 'press', instead opting to simply point at crows players and palming responsibility off to others.

    In a game where everyone was giving everything and making a contest out of every situation - Maric allowed Crows players to just drift off him or float out the back too easily and gather uncontested possessions.

    And i thought his decision making by foot was actually pretty ordinary, opting to kick to petterd and johncock contest rather than bate 25m out and 15m clear. (Understandable decision, but still the wrong one)

    Impressive numbers though.

    rough, probably the only one or two he did wrong, but im going to watch the match again from the tv to see if he screws up a bit more, but i think he was vital, i recall he had the two goal assists in the first quarter, and ill get back to it, but i think you have been particularly rough in regards to his decision making.

    secondly, the zone means certain players are placed in certain positions and have certain roles, and im assuming he is meant to be running and trying to rove or create space more offensively and block the space more so than play a hard defensive role,

  12. Point 2 was pleasing.

    Point 1 was the one that really made the difference. The tackling, work rate and desperation to win the ball was wonderful.

    Should also add point 3 - we played a horrible opposition.

    can only play who we played, but we controlled the ball and used it more often than not with precision, whereas everytime adelaide got the ball they looked rushed, due to our pressure.

  13. showing form from the preseason!

    stoked that he has done well, have always been a fan of maric, i just hope he can string a few of these together!

    also he was soo clean with his ball use, other than once or twice everything he did was damaging!

  14. beamer to walk into the first centre bounce with intent, and bump straight into scott thompson.

    tappy and frawls to get straight into tippet and walker as they walk into the 50, no stupid free kicks but a bit of body work!

    and intent, hard tackling, and when we do tackle that they stick, clean ball use, and one on one defence instead of the stupid zone off and not be accountable

  15. Gary Lyon was asked about players using Twitter on FC last night and he was not impressed by it al all.

    more he said if they want to put themselves out there, then they should be the people who stand up

  16. this is a good idea on paper, yet when a team presses 22 people in their forward half and you keep your 6 forwards in your own forward half this leads to many loose players around the ball, and to get it out of your defensive 50 you basically need it to be close enough to one on one. it will work a few times, but everytime you are under pressure trying to clear it, a wall of opposition players will effectively push the ball straight back in, thus the frontal press is effective, the best way to go through it is one on one making all opposition players accountable up the field, getting it over the boundary line 65-70 m up from your forward 50, tempo footy (controlling the football with chips and switching until there is a break, or you have to boot it long up the line) or break the lines with quick hit ups and give offs leading to a fast break, but leaving anymore than 2 players back will lead to an impossible matchup in the zone, so that is why it is not often done.

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