old dee

I am finding it very hard to disagree with the above binman, it will go down as a worst way case study for future generations.

No matter what club Scully went to he was never going to developed into a champion of the caliber of Martin. At that time we were picking purely on the basis of how players performed as juniors with little regard to how they would develop as senior players.

I used to think that a lot of the complaining about racism was compounded by people being too thin skinned. I now understand that I will never completely understand the feelings of a person who experiences racism because I can never walk in their shoes. Fortunately for me I have come to understand that most people with a skin colour other than white experience the problem on a regular basis. We have to do better as individuals and as a group.

Whenever his name comes up I immediately think of his and Trengove’s selections at one and two in the draft. We did not even interview the number three selection. That number has won GF’s and Norm smith medals. What a wonderful FD / management group we had back then.

Have you forgotten that Collingwood appointed these people to do the review. They were not forced on them by some outside organisation. Me thinks you protest too much.

It is the human condition!

One of the best or perhaps worst cases is the AFL. What the AFL badly needs is an outside appointed to replace Gil. But I doubt it will happen. Old boys clubs are only replaced with them kicking and struggling to preserve the status quo.

I don’t disagree with that. Having followed them for just a few more years I have been warned down to except mediocrity from the MFC. I look eagerly to that being a thing of the past. But have low confidence it will be achieved.

Ok that is what I was asking. With no training at Goschs, very few training reports and the Casey being too far for the media I have very little feeling on the vibe of the team. I was just asking how you arrived at the feeling. Lots of back and fro between us on very little. I hope are right by the way.

Sorry nosoupformebut that does not answer my question. How do you judge that? Do you mean you feel more urgency or do you feel that from what Max said,? Do you feel that from what other players have said or is it your gut feel?

Sadly I doubt it is SWYL.

I have to say binman you and aob are correct he is sadly part of the problem not the solution. He should be stood down after today. Just does not get it.

It is probably due to my view of this year in total but I don’t sense a team with more urgency at this stage. It may well be on display in the next month but right now how do you judge that?

Who is lifting the carpet and has the broom LH?

The question was who would not win it before us. Do you think we will win it this year LDC?

Dad has been living in Melbourne for some time I believe binman

It seems abstract for me LH let alone a pie supporter.

North, GCS, Collingwood, Adelaide, Sydney, Geelong, Essendon, Fremantle. Hawthorn.

I have been saying for months that this season will be disrupted DJ. It only takes one state to shut the bordet and all the plans get thrown in the air. Look at the girls comp. at present.

I really believe they will win a flag before we do.

I was not suggesting we do rjay. I just gave my opinion from limited occasions I saw him. It is tough to judge him on 2019 when he lost a lot of game time injured.

That is a very large lining BBP. I watch 7 without sound. They annoy me more than the team we are playing.

I have said elsewhere that WA have an election the week before the main season starts. You can bet the WA premier will be tough about virus lockdowns till then. Don’t assume anything about WA teams playing anywhere until after the Election.

I have seen him a number of times at Casey however they have generally been when returning from injury so I have tried not to judge because of that problem. Only the very good show out on their first game back from injury. Then like a lot of others last year was a wash out for him. From the limited games I have seen I have serious doubts but that may be a very tough judgement. I don’t see any skill that would hurt an opposition team. This will be his third year he will need to impress IMO.

Contrary to most on here LH I don’t mind Carlton. Now here is the background to that statement. I grew up in Bendigo and played football there in the sixties and early seventies. At that time the BFL was in Carltons zone and they did very Well with players from that area. The Blues were always my second team, I played for Eaglehawk who were the blues as well so I liked Carlton, in that period they could always be relied upon the beat the Pies in games that really mattered. I had lots of Collingwood supporting friends so seeing them lose to the Blues gladdened my heart. It did not hurt of course that RDB was the coach . As has often been the case in that period the Dees could not beat time with a stick. The only time I hate the Blues is when they play us. No MFC and I would be a blues supporter.