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5 hours ago, binman said:

On whipping boys status

Nibbler is still (inexplicably) the flag bearer for many on DL, I reckon. 

14 hours ago, Gator said:

One thing Woewodin isn't is slow.  He was second in the 20 metre sprint at the Draft Combine with a time under 2.9 seconds.

20m Sprint Result (seconds)

Rank	Result (seconds)	Name
1	2.845	Harvey Harrison
2	2.898	Taj Woewodin

Very confidently tipping Taj to be the break-out player of 2024. Underrated on here, but has all the tricks, along with an uber-professional attitude. Will exponentially improve with experience. 
 

(also tipping he’ll be a whipping boy until his value becomes undeniable). 

4 hours ago, Lil_red_fire_engine said:

It's a lot to ask Disco to compete with Casboult he is giving up x kgs.

Gee Jefferson looks bigger this offseason I wonder how many kilos he has added?

It certainly at times adds to my observations and considerations of the game. I think its a step too far I understand why this does not matter in general society but they are professional athletes and some things just need to be accepted. 
 

I reckon the eye tells us, as you’ve just revealed. Knowing the numbers simply doesn’t matter, so shouldn’t be anyone’s business but the players and club. As for any effect on public or media ‘body shaming’, it won’t make an iota of difference of course. 

13 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

Good. Couldn’t be less relevant to the public. (Cue objections)

On his 2023 form, top 10 selected every week. A pure joy to watch. Wrings every last skerrick of ability and effort from himself. 

4 hours ago, Demonstone said:

 

Q: How many Demonlanders does it take to change a light bulb ?

 

Brilliant. @Demonstone, your best work yet, methinks (sheepish self-identification notwithstanding).
 

10 hours ago, Six6Six said:

Old 6 packed his trusty camera and headed down the highway to Casey.

 

Enjoy ==>  https://www.smugmug.com/gallery/n-Gdk9w2/i-7gzWqzP/A

 

 

Extraordinary. Closed shmosed! 

40 minutes ago, Six6Six said:

Yes it is

Big boy. Wasn’t expecting that. 

Having come across @binman in the wild, I can confirm that he looks just like Garry Baker ………………….or does he?!!!!

Just a simple thing. Lauren Pearce played a great quarter, but she can’t kick straight. This is known. Why has there not been at least one option running past her to take the handball ? Not one, not once. 

A full return of confidence will win this, not the static reactivity and panicked disposal of the that half. Swap Zanker and Harris through the centre square, and play through them at all costs. They won’t lose a contest, and if we put muscle and run at the drop, with Kate Hore leading from the square, we’re away! 

1 hour ago, Supreme_Demon said:

Just saw Brodie Gundy's comments.

Here is the link to it: https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2023-brodie-grundy-trade-melbourne-to-sydney-max-gawn-collingwood-contract-salary-leaves-club-after-a-year/news-story/37ba08c1b2ba2db26acb2936921b71fa

 

A class act from Brodie Grundy. It's a shame things didn't work out at the Demons. It had so much potential during the Pre-Season. But it just wasn't to be.

I wish him all the best at the Swans (except against us).

Honest, thoughtful, respectful, grateful and intelligent is Brody. I’m completely SHOCKED the sensationalist, mindless, muck-raking media even considered publishing those thoughts. 

42 minutes ago, Katrina Dee Fan said:

but football has always enjoyed support from female spectators since the beginning.

In fact it’s one of the defining virtues of Australian Rules Football. Compared to other football codes worldwide, female attendance at games (and via membership) has always been close to parity with males. Which is but one of the reasons it was so frustrating we didn’t have a comparable women’s game until the last few years. So many willing participants, so little opportunity! No wonder when their chance came, at a participant level, the game just exploded. Girls want to play footy, and they want to continue playing as women. Well, duhrrr!!

At a personal level, it’s thrilling to be witnessing the evolution of the professional women’s game. I went to the first Dees vs Dogs game at the G - showcasing the best 40 players in the country - thinking, sadly, that the AFL probably wouldn’t commit to growing the game. It’s staggering now to think that a handful of years later, we have 18 teams, all of whom would thrash those first two teams. But I still worry about the AFL’s commitment. Never has there been a better reason to throw everything at a  competition, with an excited participant market of half the population. You know, like the men’s game. Fixturing however, in every respect (venues, times, number of games), is still problematic. It almost feels like the AFL is putting obstacles in the AFLW’s path. The old ‘if it fails, it wasn’t because we didn’t give it every chance’ notion, only with the the second bit being rubbish. Given the potential for continued growth (based on the game’s exponential evolution alone), things like needing crowd KPIs to trigger more rounds is just short term, commercially obsessed nonsense. To steal from an arts-cultural touchstone - build it, and they will come - if only cos they’ve been banging at the door for years. We’ve seen how women’s soccer has built what I believe to be a non-fail place in world (and Aus) sports culture, commercially and otherwise. I have no doubt that women’s Australian footy will leap-frog it, it just needs true, unwavering commitment from the guardians. 
 

[On a professional note, it was enormously concerning in the early years how prevalent ACL ruptures were in the women’s game (the order of 3:1 compared to men), and I was worried parents would literally stop their girls playing. Even this is now on the slide]

10 hours ago, binman said:

But surely has the most  X factor in the AFLW

Yep. Her last quarter against the Crows at Casey was extraordinary. She was out-jumping every opponent in the ruck, slamming it forward and allowing Tyla Hanks et al to set up quick entries for Eden Zanker. If she’d been able to play on-ball the entire quarter, I’ve no doubt we would have run all over them (almost did anyway). She scares oppos sh**less, is enormously valuable, and consistently gets underrated for it I reckon. 

6 minutes ago, Dees_In_October said:

beget more Dees home games there...

Sounds good. Strangely enough, I get more excited about going to Prinny Park (Ikon, shmikon!) than Casey Fields. 

3 hours ago, binman said:

Never rated him.

Do now.

Yep, my glass is looking oddly fuller now, too. 

I reckon Billings is one of those players, like Colin Sylvia, like Jack Watts, who has ALL the abilities required for A grade footy, except one thing - pure, CONSISTENT competitive will. It’s the most important quality in any player (Jason Taylor recruits based on it), which if married with top 10 percentile skill, creates a champion (luck with injuries notwithstanding). Can you develop that at 28 years old, in the last 20% of your physically viable career? I’m glass half empty, but I guess there’ll always be exceptions. 

41 minutes ago, Redleg said:

I love the way people give definite injury statements, when they have absolutely no idea of the injury, or especially any medical training.

True. None of us know the extent of Petty’s injury, other than it being a Lisfranc disruption, which have a spectrum of severity, even for those requiring surgical stabilisation. Clinically, across epidemiological history, outcomes aren’t great. We used to call Lisfranc fracture-dislocations career killers, but things have improved a lot of recent years, and the chances of them being chronically unstable have diminished greatly. The main concern is related irritabilities and compensating behaviours in the biomechanical chain (foot, ankle, related soft tissues), along with variable responses to progressive and repeated weight-bearing - running, jumping, day on day, week after week. Personally, in relation to outcome consistency, I’d rather do my ACL. So in summary, Petty’s foot could be anything from great to not at all. The MFC know this, and are planning for the best outcome. As they should. 
 

Once again, I’d make a case for umpiring determining the outcome of the game. Too many absolute shockers that went the Crows way. Still, we should hardly expect the W game to be better than the men’s. 

I posted at halftime that the game would likely be decided by umpiring. And so it came to pass. The state of AFL umpiring is killing the game. For all the brilliant play, and players, all the work, dedication and teamwork, umpiring is simply making the game unwatchable. Congrats to Collingwood, but we’ll forever know there’s a huge, ugly umpiring asterisk hanging over this flag. 

Brisbane’s defensive system (or lack of it), just can’t get their head around Collingwood’s corridor game run from transition. It’s like they’ve paid zero attention to the way Collingwood play. Then again, apart from Quaynor, Maynard and Moore, Collingwood’s defensive 6 are bog ordinary, and Bris get to score frequently from inside 50 entries. So what we have is a high-scoring GF. Anyone’s game from here I guess, but if the umps keep paying high tackle frees for Nick Daicos, that’ll get them there. 

11 hours ago, Demonstone said:

Je suis un Lion.

Marchons! Marchons!

On 9/16/2023 at 1:32 PM, layzie said:

Demonland means a lot to me and I wanted to express my gratitude to all of you for providing the best place in town for all talk regarding our beloved Demons

Fabulous sentiments, layz. 

Honestly, how good are Kate Hore and Tyla Hanks? I love watching this whole team, but something about their pure footy ability just makes me smile. 

5 minutes ago, layzie said:

"if we kicked those we would have won" argument is simplistic and a bit of a crutch

Surely you realise the forward line personnel merry-go-round and accuracy are connected. You might label it a crutch, but that doesn’t make it less than absolutely true. It’s the ‘crutch of truth’ maybe (ooh, I like that). 
 

Collingwood haven’t really had ruck issues. They’ve had at least 2 of Cameron, Cox and Frampton available all season.