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Perhaps, but trade period doesn't open for 6 weeks and at least one of the clubs being mentioned is still involved in finals and laying low. There's also the B&F in early Oct, if that's a factor. If this has any legs you would imagine that things will ramp up over the coming month. But still lots of ifs in all that.

Yes, wants to build his brand as an abstract impressionist.

He's not in a good place our Trac. Though that's been fairly obvious from when this first broke. Unfortunately, when people are like this - for whatever reason and including reasons that might be beyond their control - it can be very very difficult to find a way through/out. And that this has become so massive publicly only makes it moreso. Not only has he created an unnecessary situation, he's left himself no wriggle room and no way to pull back from the precipice without losing face.

Not sure they're entirely his, but yes.

There's a few who would and who have the trade capital: North, Richmond, WCE, GCS etc. Doesn't fit what he's saying he wants, but they are out there.

I think that's the point. This is not a process that's being worked through or driven by AFL/club/management professionals.

If Oasis can get back together I'm sure the club and Trac can sort this out.

Surely Tomlinson if not Hunter get moved on?

I think the idea that from Trac's end this has been worked through logically and methodically went out the window some time ago.

Someone mentioned the Lions. Who knows if true, but he seems to like Qld and has a relationship with Neale. Then again, hard to see that Brisbane need him, especially with another Ashcroft coming through. But, a short hop step away is GCS. If he's that keen/desperate to get out and he and those around him like the sun/beach lifestyle...? No Harry McKay, but they do have 6 + 13. Hard to see any other realistic possibility, if he wants to go he's going to have to give up on something.

Pretty clear what's going on here. Disappointing. Hopefully wise heads prevail.

Not sure that's possible.

It's the few days when everyone's at the club closing off the season so unless we have more info, I don't know that I'd read too much into this. Could be a meeting to sign off on trade/list management strategy, changes to the FD, who knows.

Unless all that is being driven by someone else.

Sure. But you make those kinds of decisions with a clear head and some open water between you and injury/trauma, not while you're still in the throes of it.

I don't see that any clubs, yet alone Melbourne-based clubs, have the trade capital, not to mention the A-grade player to throw in. Apparently Hawthorn interested (though who knows ...), but they only have Pick 12 and ???

Some disturbing revelations on this thread. If even half of it is true, with so many younger players at the club you would think that the FD would be looking to move Trac on in the same way they did golden boy Jack Watts.

The remark earlier here that Trac isn't himself post-injury trauma is something that I can confirm on a personal level (to some extent, not comparing my experiences to anyone else's). You see the world differently, small issues get magnified out of all proportion, you lose sight of the big picture and it takes good people and support to keep you on the straight and narrow and restore some measure of equilibrium. No idea of anything re Trac, but wouldn't surprise me if he was struggling, nor that he might not fully grasp that he was.

HS in on this, working through the Carlton side of things. Conservatively, the Blues are much more likely to keep their man. But in the wake of this season the Blues need to consider whether the balance of the forward set-up remains suited to modern day footy, how it can lighten the load on inspirational captain Cripps, and improve its defensive flaws which hindered it in 2024. When De Koning is back, and Jack Silvagni returns from his ACL, and Moir pushes up, plus Marc Pittonet in the ruck, Carlton have more marking options forward than they need to partner dual Coleman Medalist Curnow. McKay signed a bumper seven-year deal last season to stay with Carlton until the end of 2030. Petracca’s deal is similar, and Melbourne said they don’t want to lose him. But there are still grumbles. If there is a deal which could potentially work for both clubs, this is it. It is bold, but is that what the Blues have to be after blowing its chance to seal a top-eight spot on Sunday? https://archive.md/YLZfy (https://archive.md/YLZfy)

Care factor close to zero, but given that I still have a soft spot for Hogan and Bedford, would have to be the Giants.

Carlton are currently pick 11, but that could move lower depending on results plus Academy etc. But with Petty re-signing, and Turner, JVR and Jefferson a year older, Trac has a LOT more value to us than another KPF, even a good one.

Take whoever has the most footy smarts and best disposal.

And ... gives us an easier fixture next year. 2 x North, 2 x Richmond, 2 x West Coast, here we come.

Wouldn't disagree, but the upside is that they're nearly all still young. We had a lot of players out there who are only just getting into double figures, and then even the slightly more experienced younger brigade playing in unfamiliar positions.

So many positive attacks breaking down across half forward through turnovers. Tholstrup the worse offender, OK he's a kid, but plenty of others not much better, Billings for one. No idea how to fix it or where the improvement is going to come from, at least in the short term. Windsor back would help, but otherwise?