The Chazz

I can assure you of one thing - he WILL leave Port. Highly likely that it will be at the end of his career, but you can take it to the bank that he will stop playing for them one day. My initial issue was with your little fantasy of Wines being forced out of Port because of salary cap issues, but we'd be in a position to fit him in ours. You can create any scenario with imagination, so I admire you for that, but your views on this one were always going to be off the mark.

Ok, I will seek your views when this does actually happen, which it will, so I'd suggest you start considering your response.

Read the first 2 or 3 pages of this thread, in particular, yours, mine and DaveyDees discussions. You were hopeful that Port may have had salary cap issues, which could've forced Wines out. I was telling you that they wouldn't put themselves in the position of forcing out Wines because of the players they brought in. Now it looks certain he's extending for another 2 years, so I'm wondering what your thoughts are now on this topic.

@TeamPlayedFine39 @DaveyDee So, with the imminent extension to Wines' contract, can we presume that they will be breaching their salary cap? Or do we put it down to list management doing what they do best? I know which way I'm going.

Said it before, and will say it again, he's a rich man's Jeremy Howe.

Are these the 2018 "guns pics".

Sounds like a day in the life of uncle @Bitter but optimistic

You could also add MELB to the left cheek, and URNE to the right. Would create a nice balance...

I'm more concerned that things from the 90s are now considered "retro".

I think it was a bit busy, but could've easily been neatened up. Still think it's the best though, but it's a personal taste thing.

Probably in the minority, but I still love the Schwab-designed "shield" logo the most of all the above.

Think about it. Would they bring in Motlop and Rockliffe on big enough dollars to push one of their leaders, and best players, out of the club?

Never heard of front/backloading contracts? You are questioning experts in their field, all while using media reports as part of your weaponry. Truly amazing.

In the compensation formula, how much does a player's contract have to be worth to be deemed a 1st round compo pick? Let's not forget we got a 1st round pick for Frawley - his contract was around the $450k mark. The avg AFL salary is $371k - not exactly "poo-change" either. With the cap at some $12m+, $500k a season isn't a lot for a middle tier player. We have no idea how much each player is on, and by "we", I mean the media too. But sure, use their "reports" to help your argument if you wish, I just won't give your side any credit if you do.

I would be horribly surprised if they paid overs for any of the three they brought in. Geelong (Motlop) and Brisbane (Rockliffe) wanted both players gone, and we were the same, so much so that we are still paying part of his contract. You've allowed yourself to believe what you read in the many articles about the Power's recruiting/trade "bonanza" at the end of last season. They picked up 3 players that weren't wanted by their original club because of a range of issues, and if you want to add Trengove (who I sincerely hope gets to play senior footy), it was a cheap risk that hasn't made them any better.

And you don't think our purse will be tight when Oliver, Trac, Gawn and Hogan are next our of contract? Let's not forget they paid SFA for Watts, which was made even less given we are paying part of his contract.

You complain about Joel's skills, then whinge because we didn't pick up Dylan Grimes instead? Wow.

As long as Joel's not being caught out spending company dollars on the 3Ps (porn, punt and prostitutes).

They were painful, so I'm not surprised. Any word on their replacement?

Pretty sure someone was posting here a few weeks ago claiming that our clash jumper won't be white. Didn't give it away, but I got the feeling it would be a red jumper with a blue v (opposite to our traditional strip). Can't remember who is was, but I think they post here a bit.

And that's why I was content with what we paid for Lever. We are three years away from needing to worry about youth coming through.

As a forward, Tom Mc hasn't reached his potential yet. He has shown glimpses of "something", is it potential or just cameos? I think potential. Harmes has reached his ceiling in my opinion. ANB, I think he may be the same. I also think Hannan, even though he has been in the system for jus 12 months, I'm not sure how much there is left. (Nb. This isn't necessarily a criticism of any of these players, because as it stands, they are more than serviceable "best 22", so it will take improvement from those lower than them to replace them, which is a good situation to be in). I'm 12 months out from knowing about Stretch and JKH. I think they have potential, but could end up being depth. Stretch's attitude will at least give him the best possible chance to succeed. I have concerns about Kent, Wagner and Weed.

Let's hope we don't need contingencies then!!!

Contingency planning more than anything, AF. TMc as moved forward in 2017 because of circumstances, taking our best key defender out of his preferred position. Turned out to be a blessing in disguise. We've tried Frost forward with minimal success at best. OMc is suited down back. Thoughts were that depending on match-ups, injuries, form and other circumstances, I could easily see Lever playing that swing role, adding further value to his worth. By no means am I proposing he starts full forward, Rd 1 2018.

While it was said mostly TIC, I do think that style of defensive structure will further highlight Lever's strengths. Neita also used to dominate at CHB. Went on to become our greatest goal kicker. I actually don't see T McDonald failing as a forward. He's a very disciplined player, and I would expect a summer with the forward group will see him grow in to that line very well. Our spine is looking very, very strong.