Adam The God

This is nonsensical mate. PJ aimed lower because where he started was near rock bottom. Pert and co have built on those PJ foundations and looked to grow the club. The idea that we shouldn't aim to be a big club and aim to be a middling club instead is mindblowingly stupid and not at all in line with running a multi million dollar business in a multi billion dollar competition.

I like the idea of another young KPB as the May retirement plan. I still hold hopes for Turner too, but we'll have to see on that one. When you look at our young defensive crop there's Petty, Rivers, Bowey and then Lever at 25. May has at most 4 or 5 years left and given his hammy issues, I doubt anywhere near that long, so we need to be looking at contingencies. I'd much prefer we were strategic about list needs for 5+ years from now this year, rather than in 2-3 years going to the FA pool to keep us going. As we've seen at Geelong and to a lesser extent Hawthorn, it leaves you with a very long rebuild, with middle of the road first rounders to build a core around. So if we can get another Harry Petty and JVR fits that bill it's a no brainer. We can worry about replenishing elite mids down the line and I'd back our list management team to be clever in acquiring the necessary capital to get a look at the elite talent.

FFS, who'd want to watch an 8 part series on Essendon outside of Essendon supporters? Maybe you'd get a few neutrals that might tune in for one or two, but these series' feel super niche to me. And I make pretty niche documentaries myself. Strategically, it probably makes sense for FOX (who are going down and need content to fill Kayo) and Amazon (who are trying to establish a subscriber base), but I'm not that convinced any of them would be successful. It's probably why they haven't commissioned any further docs, to my knowledge, this year.

Really happy with this extension. Now we just need Turner to come along too. Lever, Petty and Turner post May. I'd be completely happy with us targeting another KPD in the first round this year, if we think they're good enough. We want that second wave of elite talent continuing to come through underneath Petracca, Oliver, Salem and Lever. Since you game style relies heavily on excellent defence, I'm happy if we keep nurturing those sort of players.

Being the best post clearance team got us to the GF and kept us in it. Nothing is ever one thing.

Just getting around to listening to this episode and loving it so far, but I am going to pull you up @binman on your point about Oliver not chasing in the Bulldogs pre season game. I reckon it's rather hard to chase when you're not playing in the first place. 😜 Unless I'm mistaken, that was the first game Clarry has missed since his debut season.

I still don't know what's going on in this thread. 🤣

Richmond had the same stat in their premiership years, I believe (and stand to be corrected)? Gee, he reminds me of Harley Bennell, but looks like he plays more back behind the ball.

Does anyone know if Young manages any of our guys?

It depends. I'm a hyphen and my wife wanted to take my name, so our kid is a hyphen. My sister I think wants to keep her name, so I'd say patriachy will win over with her kids and they'll take her fiance's name. It is good having your name in your kids name though.

You mean like pick 17 or something like that?

Born in 2003. Jeepers creepers. Now AF feels old on a Saturday morning.

GWS and Essendon are my big concerns next year and what will Richmond deliver?

My sister and I were at the Cattery that day. I don't know. We're a different team and club than we were then, but that was a deeply embarrassing day and those who were responsible, be it players or administrators, should forever hang their heads in shame. I don't want to rattle off a cliche, but you had to be there to really feel this pain. We couldn't turn off the TV or walk out of the room. We stayed until the very end. It was inexcusable.

Did Richmond have depth in 2017? I don't think so. System and midfields win flags in the modern era. If Voss can bring a defensive system that they all buy into and their stars take the next step, they'll do alright.

Bloody brilliant. Unless I missed it though, Petracca's spinning clearance away from Libba to Brown for a goal in GF had to be a top 10 moment.

I was thinking they might rise but wtf is that tweet or post? Be professional FFS and let your good work do the talking.

I'd be targeting a pick higher than 27. I'd love to get into the top 10, but as you write, no club would consider it, unless Belly has another master stroke...

I think Mitchell sees him as the next captain, so doubt he'll let him go. I like the idea of a reverse Frawley though haha.

Belly! 👏

No. But then I wanted to give Oliver a ten year deal last year too, so maybe I'm more reckless (or is that aggressive?) with my list management decisions.

I just realised I didn't include Sparrow and JJ in those 9, so there's 11 young guys under 22. The only thing the list doesn't have at the moment is 2 or 3 200+ gamers. I wouldn't be against targeting one or two of the Hawk veterans. We'll see...

Potentially not, but I'd be looking at the Bulldogs and Collingwood who need picks and trying to flip in 2nd and 3rd picks into a late first rounder/early second rounder.

Interesting. If we take him at face value, are we targeting a specific player or do we have a few that we'd be interested in? Maybe we don't think the guy we really want will get to 17, but we'll still get a good enough player in that range? My feeling is we're going to try and take two first rounders in this year, so we keep building that second wave and continually bring in elite talent. By now we know Taylor rarely misses, so having the opportunity to basically go Petty, Spargo, Jackson, Pickett, Rivers, Bowey, Laurie and two more is 9 players. You've then got significant elite talent under 22 going into 2022. This then complements the elite older talent, who themselves, with the exception of Max, May and I'd argue Brown, are all in their sweet spot for the best footy of their lives. I'm loving this list build. Cerra would have been amazing, but I reckon we'll target someone again like that next year or the year after. The guys that have a year to go on their contracts are going to be tougher to massage in terms of spreading their salaries across multiple years due to their ages, but hopefully playing in a premiership and their leaders taking less money, might mean they do too.

Great thinking. Then flip picks 17 & 23 for a top 10 pick? ;)