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I'd rather keep him for another year than keep list cloggers and VFL stars like JKH and ANB.

aberration = break away from norm. Average finishing position 2014-2017 = 12th 2018 finishing position = 4th 2019 finishing position = 14th-17th Completely reasonable to call 2018 an aberration. There is absolutely no evidence to suggest it wasnt.

Pathetic the way we've let them bully us the last two times. I know we're far from relevant but fancy letting the Saints bully you as a club for a decade. Our performance against them earlier in the year was a disgrace. Goodwin up against solid competition in Ratten this week. Ratten has a poing to prove. I think the Saints will bury us tbh.

True but doesn't change the fact he's passionate. For all we know Goodwin may turn out to be a complete dud of a coach and we may find ourselves in rebuild mode for another 3-4 years. Or it may be that the Neeld hiring and subsequent firing kickstarted a chain reaction and call to arms that delivered us Roos then Goodwin and perhaps a flag. As bad as Neeld was, he acknowledged the club was broken and rotten. He may not have gone about it the right way but Lyon and Co. knew they needed a realist. But they needed a realist zen. Instead they got a realist with zero people management skills.

Lyon is trying to get a response. Reasonable to think last year was an aberration but we won't truly know that until probably mid-2020. By which point I suspect we'll either be heavily in contention or Goodwin will be gone. It's a disgrace the position we're in. A few on this board understate it quite a bit. But it's very difficult to bounce back quickly from this position. I think Goodwin and co. have "over cooked" the pasta with some poor player management and development choices as well as trades that at the time looked good but perhaps set us back. It's all been over cooked and after taking 4 steps forward last year, we took a bullet train 4km back in 2019. 2019 now is about saving *some* face but in typical Melbourne fashion I highly doubt we'll win another game this year. A 5-win season with <80% percentage is coach killing for a team with finals aspirations. We may even see Goodwin gone by the end of the season. Lyon speaks with emotion and frustration in his heart. He is a ruthless competitor. 17th at this stage is unacceptable no matter how you spin it.

I guess. But if you're 2-20 and "improve" to 4-18, well, yeah, you've "improved". But you're still [censored]. The "linear improvement" line is a bit like incoming inequality. It's a meaningless metric without context.

I swear you could just copy-paste any round and any match from this year and the posts are the same. Same could be said of literally any loss during the Goodwin era. We lose games the exact same way every time and we're now three years into his reign. We were run over by a better team despite controlling the play for 2 quarters prior and building a lead. We could barely get near it meanwhile the Eagles rarely left second gear. We work incredibly hard for so little reward. For my 30 years following this team our issues were always endeavor and work rate. How so very typically Melbourne that we've built a team with work rate engrained into its style and yet it's so entrained that we end up working ourselves into the ground and thus lose matches that should be win. It would be comical if it weren't so depressing. But therein lies the positive. The core is there. It's just extracting it of the rotten. We'll get there. Still not sure Goodwin is our guy, though.

Key stat. And people brush finishing 17th as just a "bump in the road". Trends.

Yes, they do. They're playing confident football but they have holes across the ground. That we're below them, I can't fathom how anyone could possibly justify or defend it.

Our performances are a symptom of his coaching. Even today he said he is sick of losing like this. He effectively admitted it. If today was treated in isolation I'd give him a pass. But we are 65 games into his coaching career and we are SECOND. LAST. ON THE. LADDER. With 5 rounds to go. In isolation, no, we didn't lose because of Goodwin. But he is "HEAD" coach. We are second last on the ladder ffs!

Oh dear, Gonz. Oh dear.... North and Saints have rubbish lists. North was playing finals a few years ago, had a mini crash and is now in finals contention. The Saints have been average for a while but they just smashed a team we never looked like winning against last week. Carlton have an absolutely putrid list. They currently sit above us, 75% through the season. Goodwin got a talented list on a role at the time. He and his team list management this year has been utterly awful, bordering on career ending. I found myself agreeing witu "spud" Frawley, that we've never seen such a significant drop. This goes far beyond player deficiencies and well into coaching failures. Open your eyes. We are second last ffs. The only team between us and 18th is Gold Coast for [censored] sake.

This post is a snapshot of MFC circa 2015-2019

4.3 to 1.2 last quarter.

everyone in the pub here is laughing and shaking their head in disbelief at Melbourne.

Brayshaw has been awful

I'm watching in a pub with no sound. What just happened?

May, my love!

What is going on lol

When did West Coast recruit Tyson Vickery?

Lewis is actually a good target.

Lewis having to telling Harmes to have a shot after marking from 40 out directly in front.....

Genuinely made me laugh. Meanwhile Darling just shat it through easily from the same spot we've missed 4 shots from. Goodwin must be sweating.

Umpiring has been pathetic but our performance has been diabolical. Oliver should be dropped.

Lewis and Viney should be ashamed. Missed regulation shots while Kennedy snags them from the boundary.