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10.4 to 2.10 since quarter time.

this has been a common theme for 3 years, mono.

there's maybe 2k Melbourne supporters here. they'll be gone at three quarter time.

Fritsch going for the car.

You can't deny it. I was also attacked by some for saying it. Pert effectively admitted we need to rebuild by saying we lack the depth of finals teams. You don't build depth overnight. How many on the list outside the top 22 get a game at another finals team?

Smashing them in hitouts and contested possession. Losing clearances and uncontested possessions. Ladies and Gentlemen, Melbourne.

Switched off. That kick into the 50 directly to Aliir Aliir was pathetic. They saw him standing their and still kicked it straight to him. Goodwin has completely lost the playing group.

I'd rather have Ritchie Vandenberg captaining this club than Viney and Jones. FMD.

Crowd?

Members forums are pointless in the age of social media but it's encouraging that they are risking a PR disaster here. I suspect there will be some degree of filtering and selective questioning but hopefully someone poses some serious questions. Some questions I'd like answered: 1. How does the club quantify the impact of failed on-field KPIs on the club? 2. If pre season surgeries are a catalyst in the disappointing season, how did the FD initially quantify the initial perceived impact to team success and momentum? Mainly what I would want answered is, how did these surgeries impact the team so greatly as to be a catalyst for one of the most significant falls in the game's history? When the FD initially went to the board to advise of a slow start to the season, how was that anticipated slow start quantified? I don't want to hear "oh well we had this many players go in for surgery". I want to see it quantified: ie. WHY would THOSE specific players have impacted us so greatly? Show me why. And then, tell me the capacity and reason as to why they were managed in such a way as to force mass surgeries at once. Did the club bypass these surgical recommendations during finals to push for a flag? Or were the needs for surgery not determined until after? How does the club balance current team goals, with individual player welfare, alongside long term goals of the club and team? 3. What prompted -- and who drove -- the sign off on FD changes mid season? For example, were the poor performances alone enough to prompt it? Or was it a lack of chemistry between the team? I'd like this clarified and broken down. Then, who signed off and initiated it? Was is Mahoney initiating and prompting? Was it a recommendation (or order) from the board? Was it a collaborative conclusion by the board and FD? I want to know how these changes were implemented. 4. What are the individual and team KPI's outlined in Simon Goodwin's contract extension? What are the consequences if these are consistently not met? 5. How confident is the club in establishing Jaguar as a long term partner? If confident, why. If not confident, why. Quantify, demonstrate and explain. As members we need to ask questions that dig deeper beyond the corporate and PR speak.

How many goals are they predicting?

15k maximum tonight. 8k Sydney supporters. We'll be lucky to kick 5 goals tonight.

They're playing good football, no doubt. They stand to be gifted an easy draw next year (like us). IMO they will taste finals success before we do.

So is his nickname "Budda Bing"?

Harmes is also our only outside receiver. Why we continue to play so many players boundry side with our only runner tagging the opposition's best player is beyond me.

I hope things improve next year. I doubt many of the posters who here don't rate Goodwin are hoping for a poor 2020 just so their Demonland reputation is kept in check. I hope to God that Goodwin proves me wrong.

Well now we know why Melbourne drafted him ?

Haha shots fired. Better go read over my past posts...

Sounds like me when I play Civilization VI.

Except he has no coaching credentials and is a commentator, not an analyst. For the record, he was very praising of Melbourne last year towards the end of the season and said Oliver was the best midfielder he had seen at the club in his time supporting and being part of the club. So saying what's going wrong is easy when the issues are obvious. He's under no obligation to say how things should be improved, when the things he's focusing on are effort and fundamentals. He's a conversationalist, he gets the conversation going with remarks and opinions. Roos is the analyst to break it down and provide a solution or otherwise. Lyon just stats the obvious and bleeding hearts can't accept it. He and Ox are passionate and emotional in their support for Melbourne. His negative remarks alone should prompt change. He's under no obligation to provide recommendations. Besides the last time he did we hired Neeld and Melbourne supporters wont let him live that down.

Gee we are probably clutching at straws but that is damning vision. Jennings body language says it all. No response. Looks completely embarrassed or defeated.

It's mostly okay on here Kent, it's fine to disagree with someone whether they're being overly negative or cringe worthingly positive. But to criticize someone for being passionate and frustrated, especially when their insight is completely reasonable, is just silly.

Go to Bigfooty then. I frequent Bomber Blitz and other football forums, when it comes to analysis and rational discussion, Demonland is actually on the reasonable side. Your description is more suitable for the Melbourne Facebook groups. I've had to leave most of them because during matches it's a combination of "Drop Petracca" or "Drop Omac" or "Sack Goodwin" with no rational or reasonable insight. We're very lucky to have Demonland.

He's a passionate Melbourne man that is frustrated. What do you want him to say? Everything will be rosy? Nothing he said is wrong.

Actually internal reviews have many benefits. For one the recommendations are likely to fall in line with the environment's values and goals. An external review can be highly beneficial and come back with useful recommendations but it can also come back as being far too left of centre or completely out of line with those values. Ideally you want someone close to home that knows the environment and people involved. Mahoney are co. are literally paid to do this stuff.