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I wonder if the drought conditions have had an impact. I'm in Sth Gippsland and noticed the long grass has browned off and died back. No need to slash and mow. The lack of water on the ground is effecting many things. I'm sure it would be as dry in Melbourne... and Gosch's. Lets have to paddock watered, to soften it up a bit.

So we may one-day, get Zac Jones to the Dees ? ?

I think 3 chook... following Darwin. Stretch Inj: - Baker. Lewis Rested: - Vince .... possibly Spargo for JKH ?

Ironic.... AVB comes back the same week little Billy exits. stress fractures our common theme lately. Edi'shat ?

He sounds about ready for transition to CHB then, 'dd36' ? ?

careful, that may not have been a tree you were looking dodgy against, 'dd36'. Has anyone see Bbo since the Darwin game. He does sometimes like to go, 'incognito'... any doggies sniffing about 'dd36' ? .

... probably up all night watching his side, in that world thingy. Or maybe he's over there giving free tactical IT, to his Brits side? spying on opponents.

Lets aim the finger more accurately.... & your right, the club has been a let down and this must stop.............. the direction of the club. ... its decision makers ARE to Blame... for any club to be down for 50Yrs without success is a disgrace on the decisions done at control level and something very bad with the culture,,, which was seemingly rarely ever tackled.. PUN intentional.

apparently Jolimont isn't too far, IF your on that side.

LoL, you sure your not a Taswegian pd?

To win big games timbo, and to win finals matches, you have to have a mental attitude to take it on, to take your chances, conservative doesn't cut it in Finals. We have to put it all on the line, and back that right up,,, for keeps. Playing safe is a strong reason to not get there.

That's the whole point, mate he's 32+yrs old... we'll need him thru August and September. His body has had a real workover for 14 years. We are about to enter some big games, and then finals.

Yes but that was against Freo in Darwin. not a high reference. I think he (Frost) can play the wing role, from TMc.

No we don't,,, we need his experience in September. not as much Right-Now... and we want him physically and mentally fit & ready, in September. If we cannot get to September without Lewis,,, then we should not be there anyway. We have the players, 'young maybe'; but they have to learn to steer the ship themselves,,, and put the things they've learned into actions. I'd rather them try that now without 'Lew' for 2 matches,,, and bring back Bernie now, and play Jones as defensive mid. Him and Bernie keeping a close eye on our back-half. We need that experience your talking about,,, for 8 weeks, starting in August. What we need now is 'runners', and some added speed.

We are limping now since Lever went down. We entered the season limping with regard to TMc and Viney... when all those 3 got together, we hit our straps. Then Lever went down. We have been battling to find something that will work at half back since that time. Since then Oscar started to struggle a bit and Harry Petty experiment didn't workout. So to imply we are traveling well,,, and we should not take any risks now, in July, is crazy. Now is the time to try to get that back pivot sorted out, as best we can. Personally myself I would bite he bullet and send TMc back to CHB for this year, and play Hogan & Weide, up forward, and Pedo where required.

you have little faith swyl. I think we will play finals no matter in 2018, with or without Lewis, or others. We are far more than a one man band, and we will make them without Maxy, if need be. The trick is to rest those who need rest, drop those who aren't earning their place, and to promote those who are ready. Hopefully Keilty gets a shot now, before we get any closer to September. August is NOT the time to experiment with players and with form. July is our last chance to find a Lever replacement.

I don't know if you realise yet swyl, but this week and next week are NOT September... that's still 7 weeks away. Freshening an older player up in July, is the prime time to do it.

Anything short of 8 marks for a player like him is unders. He's improved marginally, at taking marks inside F50. He is capable of SO much more than that. Its time we stopped allowing ruckmen to NOT take marks in numbers. Has to change.

exactly... they do not mind hanging coaches out to dry, over at the Old Prince's Park_ .... whilst they put young guns into hibernation. Controlling their ladder position,,, and the public perception of they're list's condition. They need an NJones type, a Roughhead type, a Zac Jones type. etc. .

So do I. Grundy is better around the ground consistently, than Maxy. Maxy needs to improve around the ground, particularly taking marks in big numbers.

No. no he's not. I think, 'if you think about it', he's talking about trading the number 1 pick,,, just like we did under Roosy. So trading down the First 2018 Draft pick, on a number of picks above P25. Then trade some of these picks for some maturity. In a topline draft, I would prefer 5 top 30 picks,,,,, than one pick in the top 5.

Finally, finally, finally Maxy... you finally manged to make it to double figures Re Marks in a game. Finally,,, taking 11 marks, against the Sainters. BUT only took 5 marks in Darwin... back down again Maxy. Common', you can do better than these numbers. .

Watt, you don't think he could have earned that sort of money, with us???

agree wwsw. words are cheap... and sometimes minds ideas thinking changes.

Holidays LoL... being professional means doing the smart things to get the most out of the team, and the list. Resting bernie the last 2 weeks hasn't hurt us, but will advantage us for the next 6 - 7 weeks. Same can be said for Lewis. IMO Bernie's legs look fitter than Lewis's ,,, so I reckon Lew would reap more rewards than Bernie, from a rest. It will help us, moving towards September. There is no point having a handful of 30+ Yr olds, with massive game numbers, and then 3qtrs of a list all under 60 games. We need to give games to our young, where we can, and at smart times.