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Agree. And when you add that defenders don't dare exaggerate a push and fall over whereas forwards can do so withh little downside, the old rule is the fair way to do things. I fear it's largely money driven. They think more goals = more interest (= more ads). Personally I prefer a balance between goals and general play. I like neither soccer nor basketball which represent the extremes of scoring. The suddenly enforced 'not 15m' calls for defense kicks (without the same being applied to kicks to forwards) also smells to wanting excitement and goals rather than fair play. And while I'm ranting, the 'insufficient intent' rule is getting silly. Why have it? What's wrong with a few more boundary throw ins? It's part of our game. Not exciting enough?

True. I wonder if anyone has ever analysed why North didn't do better. Perhaps all that winning did do them good but 'merely' and saved them from obliteration rather than boosting membership.

Doubtless showing my age, but I'd rate consistently winnning games more likely to attract new young members than any amount of social media promotion.

Then the law needs changing. How can it be insufficient intent to keep the ball in if his intent was clearly to concede a point, which if he had succeeded, would not be a free against? Now if it was also illegal to try to concede the point (which I understand it is if in a ball up a ruckman knocks it through) then sure, award a free. But it is not, so don't.

The singling out in this thread seems to have originated from a (so-called, self-styled?) supporter. Self-flaggelation used to be big in the chruch too. Perosnally I was surprised by the size and enthusiasm of the crowd. (And you can't expect many oppo supporters to swell the numbers when you play GWS).

Yes but somehow players seem to be able to dispose incorrectly to a teammate surprisingly often when tackled. It's not just the dubious disposal when tackled, it's 'handpasses' in play which are getting very dubious. The AFL likes it because play looks more exciting but I expect the umps will clamp down on it. Probably starting on Sunday pm.

Does the rule include reference to prior opportunity? There are many examples in a tight situation in the goal square which leads to players who could have just kicked it away not doing so and later getting into a mess and under the resulting pressure conceding a point. Isn’t that what happened here when once he slipped over and an opponent jumped on him He was under pressure and hit it through.

Brilliant idea to announnce the debutants as interruptions to the coach trying to detail his plans vs GWS.

The ABC news says it was his second such crash in 14 months.

Gosh. His third such kneeing offence and it’s a fine.

GWS keen to poke the ball to teammate rather than take possession

What about the 'insufficient intent' nonsense we were treated to last night. A player in wet conditions kicks it along the ground over 40 metres and it eventually slides out therefore he wasn't intent enough to keep it in. I can't wait for it to be applied to all areas of the game where the ball goes out. Any kick to a pack along the boundary line shows insufficient intent to keep the ball in since the player must know there is a high probablility it will go out one way or another. If the player gave priority to keeping it in, he should kick it to an oponent 30m from the boundary.

I recall in IT there used to a joke that a device which was write-only was useless.

Ah, Demonland, gotta love it. But the usage of 'hence' to mean "from here" is rather archaic. It is now usually defined as therefore or as a consequence. Some even go as far as hence meaning from now. Shocking, I know.

With some players it's not techique etc that makes them miss goals. It's the pressure of the situation, either the state of the game or of their own performance. So how do you reproduce that pressure in training in a way which is acceptable to players?

Goodwin has taken an even stronger line: "I don't only see 'Kozzy' playing until 2027, I see him playing to well and truly beyond that. We've got three years to try and do that." https://www.afl.com.au/news/1272907/the-appointment-of-nathan-jones-as-midfield-coach-having-an-enormous-impact-on-melbourne-demons

True. I thought they were sufficiently close together. But I see it's quite a bit cooler at Mandurah early on: Mandurah Temperatures At 2:00 AM 5:00 AM 8:00 AM 11:00 AM 2:00 PM 5:00 PM 8:00 PM 11:00 PM Air temperature (°C) – – – 29 29 27 24 22 Feels like (°C) – – – 28 27 26 24 23 Dew point temperature (°C) – – – 14 16 17 19 19 Perth Temperatures At 2:00 AM 5:00 AM 8:00 AM 11:00 AM 2:00 PM 5:00 PM 8:00 PM 11:00 PM Air temperature (°C) – – – 32 34 31 25 23 Feels like (°C) – – – 31 33 29 25 24 Dew point temperature (°C) – – – 14 16 16 17 18

Perth Temperatures At 2:00 AM 5:00 AM 8:00 AM 11:00 AM 2:00 PM 5:00 PM 8:00 PM 11:00 PM Air temperature (°C) – – 22 32 34 31 25 23 Feels like (°C) – – 20 31 33 29 25 24 Dew point temperature (°C) – – 13 14 16 16 17 18

Ditto for me using firefox on mac. I think sometimes the page may appear eventually.

I don't disagree with much of that. But I think Green wasn't actually saying give us 3 picks and a deal will be done. Perhaps he was a bit clumsy, but I think he only meant that there will be a high price to pay.

Obviously there is an element of risk with any pick and that single example proves nothing other than you can get it wrong in hindsight. Perhaps you'd care to suggest what we might demand other than picks? Maybe tell WA "you can have Kozzie for one or two of your best established players that fill a need for us". Good luck arranging that.

Very droll. But I think the wide readership of Binman's posts prove the contrary.

I'm tempted to paste here a long article on the psychology of people who pretend never to read replies.

It would help keep readers away who are not interested in betting themselves, but who do have views of AFL gambling, if the title of the thread was clearer.

As I posted elsewhere: With all respect and sympathy for Jagga Smith, thank god a Carton player was injured. (yes, I am cynical.)