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He's 25, from Box Hill evidently. Plenty of VFL watchers including yourself Jack, I thought you could tell us about him!

We've taken Dean Kent. Seemed to happen in an instant. Never heard of him, but I also don't pay very close attention at all.

West Coast about to make their first pick at 45. Wowser. I doubt I'd even bother paying any attention if that were us, though there are still some good players left by the looks of it.

That's just the high talking - it was clever and I laughed but it wasn't even DA's best post ever, let alone _the_ best post ever!

Menzel went to Carlton at 11.

Anyone on 'land ever been through the drafting process? It'd be horrific I reckon. Tomorrow you could be packing your bags to move to the other side of the country, or drowning your sorrows. It must be tough.

Collingwood grab Grundy at 18 and Ben Kennedy at 19. Making like bandits.

Group hug?

Off to Port. Good luck - I already felt like you were one of ours and I'll watch with interest. I'm so happy.

We knew this was a batting wicket anyway, and let's face it, the SA bowling has been dead set rubbish. Despite this onslaught SA have still to bat, it'll be interesting to see if they're able to make hay in the same way Aus have. Losing Kallis was a seriously cruel blow though. I actually felt sorry for them for about a minute.

What that ^ guy said; use one of the zillion other threads.

It's possible, but it's negligence crossing the line of incompetence if it's the case. Given the "clean slate" nature of our current recruiting team I'll assume they're not morons and will pick the better player.

I'd deduct points.

You've got Gillies in there twice. Next year's delistings look interesting, but I guess that's a discussion for another time.

These kind of posts make my brain hurt. Why do so many people automatically equate "class" with "soft"? I've not heard or seen a single thing to indicate that Toumpas is soft. I suppose it's the same logic that leads people to believe "inside" automatically equals "plodder".

While I'm not normally one for pitchforks and torch bearing, I'm amazed their supporter group hasn't driven CEO Trigg out of town (not over this bit specifically, but the situation as a whole). What an absolute mess.

He's on the wrong trajectory for that in my eyes, but I hope you're right.

A misconception, some concern that can be allayed with due diligence, and some racism tossed in for good measure. Well done.

Watts won't be a star which is disappointing, but he's not the hack you're making out. In between star and hack is a massive area of grey and Watts is in it. He's still a good player.

Wouldn't consider it for a second. There are more than enough "pretty good" players out there that actually want it enough to behave at the required standard, so there is no need to waste time on guys like him.

Not everyone agreed - I wouldn't even say most people did. Not being sure which NQR to squeeze in to the 20th and 21st place in the side isn't my idea of depth - and I'll go on record to say that despite the optimism (including my own), that will still be a problem this year. Depth isn't worth a cracker if your list has no top end talent. As far as I'm concerned this is the first time our forward line has looked strong since it had Neitz and Schwarz in it. You can remind me if this in 12 months time if you want.

I doubt anyone with a clue was salivating that much about Green and Petterd. The Jurrah thing panned out the way it did, but Clark (pre-injury) and Howe both had excellent years. Comparing that to a forward line that has added a premiership grade key forward (doubling our count) and a premiershipgrade small forward (taking our count from zero to one) is hardly comparing apples with apples.

My IT person radar just went ballistic.

Clint Bizkit will be happy.

You'd never pass on a player just on "go home factor". Last year we had at least 10 (I stopped counting) players who came from outside Victoria who had "go home" options and how many took that path? Zip. There are literally hundreds of players in the system listed by clubs outside their native state and there's probably one case every two years or so of a player cracking the sads in this manner. Even if the kids are homesick after the first year or two, suddenly they make friends, establish working relationships, meet a young woman and so forth, and suddenly life in the new city doesn't seem so bad after all. If Toumpas is the best player available (and if he's available at all, being the best will be a given I'd have thought) then it'd be ridiculous to pass him up.