Lord Travis

Looks a speed demon. Welcome aboard Caleb!

We look forward to you motoring up and down the wings of the MCG pinpointing passes for years to come.

24 minutes ago, Willmoy1947 said:

For some reason i am thinking Allen Jakovich.

Need to trade up to pick 1 to land him then! Jako was the king!

47 minutes ago, roy11 said:

at least it doesn't seem like we need to tune into Night 2.

Does anyone other than those close to the kids potentially being drafted or absolute diehard football nuts? It's essentially a bunch of no-name kids with a lowish chance of making a long term AFL career. No idea why it's an "event" worthy of live media coverage.

Curtin sliding to 10 would be bonkers. He's already better performed and has more potential than a few others shown their above him there. Strange times! 

7 minutes ago, Robbie57 said:

Just looking at the graphic really reinforces two things:

NM absolutely snowed the AFL and

WC need more high picks; 1, 23, 37 wont cut it for a rebuild.  They must be dirty on NM and will have the hand out next year. A very bad precedent reminiscent of GC (who through the academy are getting yet another leg up.)

Also Adelaide must be well placed to move up the order.

North have been absolutely kissed on the d*ck. Massive overcompensation. They've already got a very stacked young midfield that just needs time to mature. LDU, Sympkin, T Thomas, Sheezel, Wardlaw, Philips, Powell is the makings of an elite midfield. Add in another 5 picks within the first 20 in this draft and anything less than a premiership in 5-6 years time must be considered an outright failure. Similar stacked young list to GWS and Gold Coast, both who have failed and are now losing the advantage they were handed.

Will have he best career of this draft crop. Not necessarily the highest peak performance, but best overall career. Couldn't be more rounded as a midfielder and leader very impressive youngster and I hope he winds up in red and blue.

Curtin, Sanders, Watson in that order for pick 6 preferences. Windsor doesn't seem to be pick 6 level IMO. Curtin would be a steal.

1 hour ago, DeeSpencer said:

Yes, they do a trial run for the technology and any rule changes. Whether they actually input real players or they get set up with 70 fake names to work with I'd have no idea. Maybe they do use the real players and the recruiters use it to psych each other out.

They do use it to create a bit of intrigue for sure. We took Hayden Young and Pickett in the year we the two first rounders, so showed our hand slightly. Jackson the surprise bolter then, someone else could be the same this year. 

Gave nothing away other than we're still keen to trade up whether for pick 1 or improving our draft hand. 

The recruiters do a mock draft together every year and it was this afternoon. If anyone gets details of how it went, please share!

I think it'll be

6 - Curtin

11 - Windsor

I'm hoping for 

6- Sanders

11 - O'Sullivan

He's a jet and I expect him to be picked by another club before us. If he slid to us then he'd be a great pickup. Him and Kozzie would cause nightmares up forward and both can take stints in the midfield for extra damage.

12 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Thanks @ChaserJ

Pick “6” (7) likely be looking at Curtin, Sanders, Leake, Caddy or O’Sullivan 

Pick “11” (13)likely looking be at O’Sullivan, Wilson, Windsor or Murphy 

A Sanders and O'Sullivan double would be the ideal result IMO.

9 minutes ago, BScotti said:

has he nominated as F/S?

 

Yes. he and club have nominated. Will very likely become a Demon either by a late draft pick or the rookie draft. The only way he doesn't now is if a club bids on him very high so we choose/can't match it, which appears unlikely.

On 08/11/2023 at 22:08, Little Goffy said:

So, something that confuses me if what happens if a F/S nominee is selected by another club right at the end of the main draft? Say, pick 88 of an 88 pick draft?

There must be a policy in place for this because otherwise it would be inevitable that a situation like that would happen.

I guess I'm wondering, if we have K Brown nominated, and only one spot left after 6 and 11, are we kind of obliged to take him with our one remaining pick in the 40s?

Only other solution I can think of is that the nominated club must use their next live pick in 'any' draft, which would obviously refer to the rookie draft.

With that in mind... possible pick trade shenanigans still to come with our 40-something pick? Bump it right back to 70 in exchange for a future 3rd or something?

The draft picks don't have an end point - they are infinite as long as clubs have list spots to fill and are not choosing to pass. As mentioned by RalphiusMaximus however, once you hit a certain point of the draft each pick has 0 points assigned value. So if a club bid on him at pick 88, we can just match the bid and take him if we have a list spot available. The kicker though is having a list spot available to actually draft him, and that may be why delisted Turner.

1 hour ago, layzie said:

Been a little while since I checked the ranking but Ethan Read appears to have been a bolter? Running ruckman with good ground coverage. Any chance he could be in play?

He's a Gold Coast academy draftee and was always expected to be drafted top 10. GC have 3 academy prospects (Walter, Read, Rogers) set to be taken I the first round. Read is not an option for us, though we'll likely bid on him if he available.

2 hours ago, Binmans PA said:

He certainly doesn't like to take the tackle, he dishes off well, but as quickly as he can. That's why he's more Kelly than Trac or Clarry.

Looks like he'll be a good player, but not my sort of player.

Looks like Marc Murphy to me. Quick neat player, but lacks the power of top line midfielders.

34 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Would like to think we could do a reverse Luke Jackson for Reid end of 2027. My guess is that some Melbourne club will make the mega offer. He could be the first $2M a year player. If he lives up to the hype he'll easily command 6 x $1.6+ in 2027

He's from country Victoria and is a Geelong supporter. Will likely be down at the cattery in a few years time and handed the keys to the city.

4 hours ago, Demonland said:

No Demons.

 

Reid is from country Victoria and supports Geelong... Guess who will be a Cat in a few years!

1 hour ago, Mach5 said:

I am. I’m very wary of any player that can’t have an impact unless placed in a primary midfielder role. This is exactly why I’d choose Leake over Sanders - Leake has demonstrated an ability to have a critical impact wherever he has been positioned on the field. Just pure footy ability.

Clayton Oliver no good then? How about two time brownlow medalist Lachie Neale? Or brownlow medalist Cripps? Versatility is nice to have, but if you're a gun midfielder then why would you ever play any other position.

Talk about impact, Sanders is the best performed midfielder in this 2023 draft class. He won the Larke medal for best player in the national championships. He's a ball winner, he's got burst of pace, classy agile mover, good kicking skills, strong overhead, hits the scoreboard, leadership qualities. There's no reason why he won't make it as a good AFL midfielder. He's probably the safest bet in this whole draft class and looks to me like hell carve out a Joel Selwood type career.

If JT and the recruiters decide Leake is our guy, then we'll all support him and hope he's a star. At this point in time, he's a lesser player than Sanders and hasn't shown much as a midfielder yet. Pick 6 is a lot to spend on a flanker sized intercept defender when there's potentially a superb midfielder on offer.

This thread is about Kynan Brown not Ben Brown.

1 hour ago, demoncat said:

More info from the article linked:

Essentially means West Coast are taking pick 1 to draft. Norths offer is better than ours, and ours is already overs IMO. We're better off taking what we have to draft. A shame as Reid looks to be a potential game breaking star of the future, but it would be unwise to over commit for one player.

Let's say we wind up with Sanders at 6, Windsor at 11, Brown at 42, and our future first is round pick 15 as an example. If we use the moneyball math idea,

Reid is a 10/10
Sanders is 9/10
Windsor is 7/10
Brown is 4/10
Future first is 6/10.

26 beats 10, but it's just about what's better for the list at that point in time. If it was just 6 and 11 I'd consider it. To add future firsts and other picks tips it too far the other way. If West Coast won't accept 2+15+17, then it's extremely unlikely they will accept 6+11+42+future first. And I hope they don't. it's overs.

Time to move on from pick 1/Reid.

On viewing I thought he played like a shorter Lever, so I'm baffled by the Fyfe, Hird, Bailey and other comparisons...

If JT thinks he can become an elite midfielder, then I'm all for it. That's what we need. Would be a huge call to take him ahead of Sanders, Watson or Curtin if available.

On 28/10/2023 at 18:37, 3183 Dee said:

I’ll be interested, also, to see how the coaching change (Yze 🔁 McQualter) will affect things.

This coaching change is the biggest watch for me. Our midfield has elite top end talent, but hasn't maximised it the past two years. A fresh voice and mind to structure ours mids differently could push us back into a dominant team. We lost our centre stoppage impact this year, but more importantly we actually got beat up there defensively. Seeing Carlton late in the season pile on 3 quick centre bounce goals against us when the game was on the line was heartbreaking. The ball movement through the midfield needs a refresh too, so McQualter could be our biggest trump card this coming season.

4 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

Max will be 32 next year and playing solo ruck, it’s not exactly ground breaking to say he’s now at an age where his main focus should be individual performance. Hopefully he’s dealing with a new born and another kid too.

Viney, Tracc and Lever are the guys who are in the right age range to be captain. 

It’s not unreasonable to suggest one or more of those guys should take over the title whilst Max stays as a vital leader in certain ways.

Agreed on the captaincy. Max is contracted through 2025 and himself said he can't see himself playing beyond this contract. That means he's got two seasons left and will be 34/35 when he retires. It's reasonable to assume he hands off captaincy soon.

Lever is our most rounded leader and has been for years. He's the general, an on field coach, a vocal leader at training also setting standards, handles off field and media well. Personally I'd make him captain with Max or Viney vice.

Fantastic achievement by all. The girls are flying and look set to go back to back!

AFL mens premiership 2021.
VFL premiership 2022.
AFLW premiership 2022.

The club is in a really fruitful period of success. Enjoy it while it lasts and hopefully what has been built the past few years is sustainable long term.