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If he has currency, I'd be removing 23 from the deal...

When Jay Clark cannot get the heading right : "from Richmond to Melbournre"., how do we judge the quality of the rumour?

The fact that we couldn't ship Blease or Strauss must be worrying for them both. Perhaps they will be rookies somewhere. The fact that Cartank wanted pick 698 before one of these blokes speaks to their true currency. And Jeff, when you put on the new shirt, try a smile!

Think much of this should have been in the 'charged and redacted thread'?????

Equalisation: ask Eddie how he would like to punish opposition clubs and introduce it without any due diligence. The inmates are running the asylum...

Our first trade completed for 2014. Talented forward and potential outside midfielder stagnating under Mick. Welcome, and looking forward to the speed and goals you bring!

I've got a great idea... Nate Jones says "I want to explore free agency". Melbourne offers him a big contract. We get compensated with band 1 ( age and contract) and get Nate back. This making up rules [censored] is fun!

Point 1: if they get a pick directly after their first pick, wouldn't this be third round thanks to exclusion from the first two rounds for their governance issues? Point 2: if they void the contract, isn't that like 'retirement', then the Mal Michael clause kicks in? He should be traded as there is a valid contract registered with the AFL. If this goes ahead, I can see brown stuff flying everywhere. I am more riled abou this than anything I have seen in a while. The competition is dead if this gets up....it is not a competition but a display event for marquee teams and everyone else can just get Fcccked.

Ox was discussing it on SEN as I was in the car getting 'emergency supplies' for dinner. He was very unhappy, too.Apparently the AFL have no problem with it....

So did I hear correctly?? Essendon and Paddy will tear up his contract, he goes free agent, PA give him a big contract and Essendrug get band 1 compensation?? They then trade a junk player from drug land for pick 17. Is this not a RORT?? Why should drug lords be able to bend the rules and be compensated for their terrible behaviour? Why are the AFL supporting this? Essendon should be BANNED from the first two rounds of the draft, as per their penalty. Their band 1 compensation should be after their first pick (round 3). The system, in all its forms is just Flukked. Why play by the rules when you can just break them? What a flunking joke.

This is terrible for us. This assumes that Clark has almost the least value of the three. I would want extra from Geelong to make this work, say even swapping our late pick for their second rounder. Geelong are paying way unders for Clark unless more is happening.

Swap Blease for Garlett. Ok, I'd reckon for all concerned

So, Hawks take Frawley with no penalty. Yet, if we pick up a free agent, our compo is penalised? How is that fair?? We should be compo'ed for Frawler the Crawler, and then be allowed to participate in securing free agents without penalty. Fortune favours the chosen few.

Frawley: Frah-Li. Rhymes with 'creepy crawley. Small insect that claims to have red and blue blood and a heart that beats true. On further inspection has no stomach, brain or ability to lead and requires a yellow and brown anus to closely follow otherwise would lose itself and curl up like a slater. Cashturnal: only seen at contract time.

Club recruiters have been putting together dossiers on these kids all year. It might make a small difference, but I don't see wright winning time trials, beep tests etc and everyone has him top 3. It's part of the puzzle, not the whole picture. I love that he is a competitor, a performer and attentively leader. Welcome B. Stretch, S.O.S

So how about: Mitch the Birch for Geel 2nd round plus player Herty L. and 3rd rounder for the Geel 2nd rounder. Blease for a bin liner and bag of chips. Frawley comp (3) to dogs for 6 and 2nd round pick 2nd round for Frost Our 2nd round for Merritt the Ferret and 3rd round 6 for Mitchell and membrane 2 third round picks for Roo's special smokeys Get brayshaw with 2, Stretch with 3 rd rounder, smokey with 4th. No wonder Paul is going on holidays half way through. It will be done by then....

Ha ha.... He wants to get over Depression by moving to Geelong! If you look up depression in the dictionary there is a nice picture of Geelong's Main Street. So, whatever led to this, I shed any care about mC like a lizard sheds its skin. Get the best deal, MFC, and be done with this pus bag.

His agenda? 1. To get whatever he could from the system to benefit the club. Perhaps it will be our last chance for a while as we plan to move up and be more competitive. 2. Set a baseline on what others would have to do to prove 'special circumstances'. 3. Make a point that will influence the equalisation discussion. Just a guess. The downside is that it paints us as poor cousins and beggars, which would make us less attractive to marquee signings....

Yes. Depression is episodic, and at the time he may very well have met the criteria for a diagnosis of 'depression'. That and his current acts may or may not be directly related. If he was running a negative past orientation and stable attribution style (I'm injured, have been for ages, will never get better...) thinking process, then helplessness, hopelessness, social isolation and depressed mood would have all been realistic outcomes for him. We are not in a position to judge that. We are in a position to judge his current (expected) actions, however. If he is running a comorbid anxiety, and he believes that the MFC may act as a trigger to 'kick off' his depression again, I could understand his reluctance. However, avoidance is a poor coping strategy. Would need to address the external locus of control (it's the MFC, I have no responsibility for my response), stable (it will always be like that) and negative expectation. Suggest if a clinician has advised avoidance, he has been poorly advised. Seems to me there is a lot more going on, and MFC may be exercising more control than we give them credit for. Let's see how it plays out.

Mark Evans may have other things on his mind depending how the druggies go in court tomorrow. Hope they get drilled big time, and show cause notices stand. Become infraction notices. That'll STTFU. And make me smile. Then I'd say in the commission hearing "and how did your "special assistance" work out for you, Evo?...that's right, infraction notices."

Why does everyone want to trade Toumpas? In a club like Hawthorn, he may have been lucky to get one senior game and have been developing in the magoos. Unfortunately we have to push him forward because our cupboards are so bare. If we kept him and developed him, I wonder if that is better than trading him off for less value than he can offer us. Let's get serious, there is half a list I would get rid of before this kid.

Fined for betting in Adelaide. Involved in Essendons drug fiasco. Puhlease! Don't rewrite history with the integrity BS. As long as he is a good coach, and a good addition to PR and MFC, then that should be enough. Let's not canonise him!

Run DMC can p??? Off. We were going to get nothing out of him anyway. He is either poorly advised, an absolute jerk off or both. Reputations are made on the quality of the man. Regardless of the D, he is displaying signs which do not bode well for his future (run away, run away!) and he will end up with the reputation of a square of used toilet paper. Ross Lyon was 5 years too early. We will all be saying 'Mitch who?' - oh yeah, that scumbag. Time for the club to make a silk purse out of an absolute c&&t. Go for it boys, time for hard ball. If we don't get what we want, neither does Run DMC. (Or Eddie....)

Moore and Heeney are highly rated, but not really spoken about because they are as good as off the open market. I would bid for both, and hoped i got them. Losing frawley and MC means we have a need for quality talls, and i suspect Moore may be the pick of the bigs for us. Him, plus one of Petracca and Brayshaw, would be a great first round. Nothing to do with Collingwood. Cant give a stuff about them. If they think they can get better at 9 (ish), then happy to be the first team with a bid on the kid. On Run DMC ( d for depressed...) , i would play hard ball. Herthier aint enough. If they want him, they have to pay for him.

So Sammy can run...Old Samwise Gamgee can run all the way to flipping Mordor, and he still won't make that much of a difference. Stay...Go...can't see him stamping himself with authority on any position in our lineup, so I have no probs if he wants to trade. Worst case we get a spot on the list. Best case PR pulls a bunny out of the hat and we get a developing role player that helps us be better.