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you do realise I wrote...if not up for 2014 ? There cant be too much ifs or butts here. Surely they will know within months whether he will rise for next year. if its doubtful it has to raise questions. Its just being realistic

Ive nothing against Custard tarts,,hence my nomination, Vanilla Slices are covered ( Snot Blocks ) Dates Scones...yeah..Blueberry Muffins ?

but what job ? I can appreciate he being coy. Hes earnt my respect as to how hes carried himself through all of this. He knows hes 2nd choice at best and who wants to jump the shark !!

I thought the quacks got the last call

Its not JUST an injury... Its not JUST giving up At some point a call is required

I dont think he's interested in coaching currently OD !!

I feel for Neil in a fashion. Theres two levels here. 1 ) Roos 2) Others Craig cant in all practicality put his hand up (officially ) until he knows theres any job to apply for. Still all funny buggers currently

He was somewhat hung out to dry wasnt he. Others get nice payouts, whilst the coach got paid out ON.. everyone was in this surely/

This is where we will differ then.If the player cant come to the filed and play ( i.e ) return to the value invested then there ought be a consideration to employing someone who can provide a better contribution on the field in that time frame. Thats business, thats what this game has become. Its not about the player, its about the team. Go Dees

So you agree theres a tipping point. Its what its all about, like it or not.. (apol should have made it one post )

Did you see him this year.. wasnt the same as last, just saying...You may remain staggered by all means .

I would agree. And as alluded to prior this come into the category of work injury compensation. This I see as separate to earning ones keep.

when ? And I quite comfortably ask as I do not know. Is it still effectively a sunk cost should a contract be paid out and the player not on the list ? There is NO value that can really be apportioned to a player than can not provide a return ( keeping in vogue ) Id be interested to know. ( doubt Im alone )

read my longer reply..

I cant but agree. I think a lot of people take a different view to myself. Thats fine , as far as it goes but when considering such things as this there really is not a lot of ambiguity about it. Firstly I dont see this club as any sort of Benevolent Society nor some Friary or retreat. Nor do I see it as an altruistic co-op or some suburban type family get together . It IS actually a business. The purpose is to engage competitively in the AFL striving for success. The business has at its disposal three legs of a stool. Theres Administration , The football Dept and the player list. Despite some assertions we cant talk in terms of ROI this is exactly what this business IS about. its bang for buck and is so in EVERY dept as they all can be measured by KPI's . As far as Players go its what they do on the field that accounts for 90 % of any value. To this end players are adjudged as to their value. This is reflected in length and value of contracts as well as particular resources that might be accorded them as different. Their value is arrived at as to what they can do. Simple as that really. . So in terms of a business what they earn together with resources applied is to be considered as the Investment. What they do and add to the teams effort ON the field is the RETURN. So despite the stance of some this thing we call footy is in fact ALL ABOUT ROI's. Im not for a moment suggesting we can foresee all injuries especially long term ones but some injuries come down to management. Hindsight suggest we didnt get it quite right with Mitch. That damages his capacity to play and dare I say it provide a return on the clubs investment. IMHO if his injury is so serious that theres no real expectation that he can take to the field come game 1 season 2014 , which by association means experiencing a beneficial preseason then it really begs the question whether there is any REAL value going forward to having hi on our list. i.e That spot, that money can go to a bigger equation whereby better value might be had. Some may not like any of this...good luck to you as you attempt to breathe, head in sand. Some may think I have a beef with Mitch. Nothing of the sort. Ive thoroughly enjoyed his games to date though those this year werent that crash hot ( goes again to ROI ) A fit and effective Mitch Clark would be of enormous benefit to our 1st 22. . I fervently hope we have this. As would I have no dount would he himself. Just before some of you fire back as I know you will, ask yourself this. Is it also fair on other players who are fit to play and take the field to earn their crust ? There is a separate issue as to "work-injuries " etc. Separate compensations as well.

Never took you for daft there Nasher...which bit are you incapable of digesting.. If you cant take the park, you ought not be on the list. Its pretty simple

how about we look beyond all the luvvy dovey and get players that can stay on the non-injured list ?I couldn't care nor ever have for individuals or and attachment thereto come footy I follow the team. Can we get a best 22 to play with some consistency and continuity ? I wish Clark well as a bloke but hes not adding to the gameday and Thats when the real work is done...the stuff that counts. If hes unable to play fit in 14 then quite simply he oughtnt be on the list.

Not quoting big % on the first part and certainly agree in wishing him back on the park in 14Good job we have Hogan coming in

went right through to the keeper didnt it.

god help some of you if in business plssing away money.The notion of having to pay 'someone's is THE irrelevancy. Look at Clark in isolation . If he cant take the park youd be better off paying for someone who can.

5-7 ? We haven't had 1 yet

Ffs.. Hes getting top whack and's hardly on the park . Wheres the friggin value in that. Its just a black and white evaluation . Take all the hype and emotion away and we arent getting much in return. Thats the cold hard reality.

Would you believe an A ,3 B's and a cub scout brigade Chief !!!

exactly

quite frankly its starting to sound like sugar coated bullshlt !!