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I know you have your 'intuition' but OD there is simply no mechanism to afford them just 6 months...if anything their actions may lengthen any penalties..

wow....didnt see that coming !!!

is there any other kind ?

OD..if Essendon get away with this Im pretty well done with footy

The New Bomber Mids seen here at a secret training session New Club Song: Who do you think you are kidding, McDevitt ? If you think we’re on the run... We are the boys who will stop your little game! We are the boys who will make you think again! 'Cause, who do you think you are kidding McDevitt ? If you think old Essendon’s done?

bookends !!!!

be just our luck if he got it right at the second attempt !!

totally disagree.

No but the bad guys are being handed a sweetheart deal . Quite underserving of such. Keeping the game going is not the same thing as Keeping Essendon afloat

Id imagine any ring ins would be concentrating on making a good impression. Its their gain and Essendons loss remember. This bunch of fools really ought to be cast to the four winds for all the hassle theyve caused. Probably time for more evolution of the leagues members and get rid of this lot.

you'd think it rather self descriptive eh !!

all im really attempting to do is show the difference in where the accused sits in relevance to the systems. In the WADA instance its more akin to the French form

Hogan wait a year...breath in ...breath out Truck wait a year....continue breathing.......

Well done padawan ( no slight intended ) Yes one system is adversarial and the other not. In one system teh court actually works with the prosecution as opposed seeming independence and blase etc. and yes. ASADA have to front a case.. but its actually beholding upon the accused to dismiss it. edit didnt say it was a perfect analogy...just the closest I do like your thinking though. You get it whilst many others struggle...espially those wearing red and black !! lol

happy to hear how ?

The closest analogy I can think of is its like the difference between French and English courts. To me much of the ridiculous rubbish emanating from the efc spin club is founded on their lack of appreciation of this. Its not so much that Asada need show they Efc) did as much as Windy Hill showing they didn't. Again ; doing this cant be straightforward. What happened to all the 'bad' Thymosin that can be traced and where and when was the 'good' stuff sourced ?? Efc have foolishly believed silence and invisible skullduggery would provide their defence. Its just served as a giant hole to trap them.

Its time... the burden is upon the players, definitely. If they cant show a plausible alternative and prove...to the tribunal to its comfortable satisfaction then they ARE cooked. How can they do that ? They apparently have no records. Asada can show a scenario upheld by a paper trail ( of sorts ) together with known protocols for particular drugs. They can show a 2+ 2 situation. The players.....supposedly no real idea what they took ?? Asada can show supply of "...." from particular origins that only deal in specified items and NOT the supplements that EFC would have you believe. All reasonable probability suggests TB4 and not Thymomodulin. The Bombers have it uphill despite all the spin of their fanboy brigade !!

Just heard...fmd....Bloody Norm !!!!

all things aside this is a particular topic whilst the training may cover a myriad of things before its inevitably derailed.

Actually...and I know its splitting hairs but the reality is its the PLAYERS who must do any proving and not ASADA. I..e ASADA will present the case to substantiate the claims that culminated in the notices being issued. Essentially ASADA will show what they have determined is the path of events. Its then beholding upon the accused to proved otherwise to a satisfactory ( or comfortable ) standard to the tribunal. Its up to the players. They MUST prove a different history than the one suggested by the accusations. This might prove impossible if there are no corroborating documents and records to do such. Tough !!! edit They thought having NO RECORDS was their out........its actually their undoing !! I like the juicy irony of that.

I think theres substance to the sort that it was very much ASADA's own dithering and such that caused the delays in the case of Cronulla. . This is t the case with Essendon as its been pretty much a resistance war with them.

thanks jnr Some seem to think theres a backswell of feelings against ASADA/WADA here but theres not. Theres simply a preparedness on the part of some to be realistic enough to realise that it all hasnt been plain sailing. No one, not having any knowledge , even if cursory , would suggest that the situations of Cronulla and Essendon are alike bar save for one thing. It was up to ASADA to implement the World policy locally and quite frankly unless your too blinkered to be clear, then ASADA stuffed it. Those who want to see Essendon brought to task for their wrong-doings are hoping they've ( ASADA) learnt and have got their ducks in a row this time. I do think though that what was the Sharks Leniency will become the Bombers armageddon.

mate in all seriousness. Think about what has actually happened. You're starting to spin worse than the other lot.I know the instances are different. But as to what transpired its irrelevant in so dar as Asada buggered up re Cronulla and have been warned not to do like with Essendon. Just stand back and look.

2014.. appreciate your posts but like a lot of things being too close might blur perspective. Reality. ASADA under manned and resource poor in Oz. A unique transgression occurs with significant global repercussions. 1st outing ( Cronulla ) result major f up. Smacked botty and told not to repeat. Wada well aware of what the EFC debacle means. Talk what you will..and its interesting but Wada got rolled by inadequate local branch.

Back in your box qwerty Any idiot bar you could have sourced that but you're an adversial troll. !!