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I believe that was the point Binny was alluding to .. "heard a touch".. impossible. Folk are telling porkies...... one to deny a goal...the other to seemingly save his derriere

Their last opportunity for the year to inflict wounds upon a top team. This may get nasty...and we never retaliate.

All delivered in brown bags so I'm informed....

We know there were at least 2 ppl talking [censored] at that instance 😉

Invariably the only way to instigate change is to ridicule the dolts beyond redemption. Embarass the fools into change

1) Hawks do have nothing to lose.... 2) ...tbh.......ive seldom seen this "burnt" angst.... would be handy. No idea about this one... i thought we were a good 5 goals better than the scum....alas.. Dees to win.....by bitten finger nails

This is august Playing in September is another step up. They're good... and weve seen how good..but those legs tired too early. There's a wall waiting for them...a bit too high this year.

But they didnt. The whole notion of running down your opponent....is that you do actually do so. We didn't...not by the scoreboard. Nearly...but nearly might as well be a mile. There's 3 ifs in there alone... chuck in any number of maybes..... but if you do so for one then why not the other. If we're to play sliding doors scenarios. It would be wiser would it not to get out in front of these "needed" kicks and be the hunted not the hunter. If...but a small word....is actually a huge void.

No..fair enough... but they came out with a seemingly different mindset.. We looked like we were looking to win the qtr...win the match. They threw EVERYTHING and the kitchen sink at that first 10 mins. I suspect Voss was planning on getting a break on us...forcing us to play catch up footy...which gets harder and harder as those legs get heavier and heavier. Looks like 2 coaches...2 different ideas to those 30 mins. Strangely both weren't wrong...but one more right than the other.. The old adage, never give a sucker an even break...comes to mind. We did...

Our 4th qtr second half....should have been the 1st half ( if that makes sense ) We just get caught napping time and time again...and that game's result is why you can't.... it just won't always go your way if you leave it too late. If we had amped up in the first 5-10 mins of the 4th.....we would have run them ragged. Yes...we'd both be stuffed in the bottom half...but in all likelihood would have prevailed. Should have started the 4th as though we were srarting the game again. Ignore the previous 3 qtrs... ( other than.."learnings" ) ..treat it as a 30 min mini match.. We had the legs to come home and run it out...they didn't. Did we approach it this way ?? I don't think so. Pretty dumb really...imho

Ridiculous that he didn't.. Not saying because mr hindsight suggests..but more that he himself knew we had our work cut out and needed to getva crack on in the 4th.. He basically said as much at 3/4 time.... and then.. Many observed the Blues fade towards the end of the 3rd... you'd have to think they're not going to dip in any fountain of youth at the break !! They were more than probably going to tire as the game ebbed on. Capt Obvious would suggest all hands to the wheel until they did...tire. For reasons known only to Simon he charted another course . I dont blame him for those 10 mins...but i question the wisdom. Learnings...hmmmm ... do we ??

When measuring something... Best to bring the right rule....and know how to read it... Better still ...measure the correct aspect.

Just these two points... please understand they are mutually EXCLUSIVE. Totally agree with first point. They were...absolutely. The game was really won in the first 5 mins of the last qtr. ( as things turned out ) However...there is no escaping the reality and plausibility that despite that ( the above ) the umpiring over all was pox...and specifically the adjudication applied to Tracs goal was appalling; and that IT specifically decided the game. It's not terribly often in games that despite an overall judgement that there were umpiring stuffups that anyone will seriously point to one particular event. That's not the situation regarding this game. If ever a game was decided by how a spinning coin fell..this is a serious contender...and mores the point ( npi ) it should never have been uponthe coin's fall. It WAS a goal. And that deserves MASSIVELY lambasting.

Does a bear.......

Id rather Roo just played a fwd role.

Only to those that identify as Felicia perhaps.....and even then....

It may well become moot...but it's always ( to me ) been more about what the FD has/had planned for NEXT year etc. This year ...imo...was always about some sort if transition. Agree...time will tell

No...and I dont employ diluted Soy Cause when cooking... ;) That said..... Ive had some 0 Beers when it's my turn to drive...and didnt find them overly abominable...lol Pepperjack doing its darndest to kill its brand.....shame...was good once...

I likie the sentiment...but dont see it happening... They know theyhave two more...just two more games this year. They even matter of factly stated they are out to upset the top guns... Thats all they live for at the moment...some fleeting bragging rights.. Those last two games are on familiar territory for them. We will more more concerned about them than they are about us I imagine We better be on our toes..

That's right...in a game where there wasn't much service to the forwards......it was his defensive game that prevailed.

And yet strangely is WAS won right at those centre clearances. Goody at the 3/4 running interview said all but that...in a fashion. We WOULD have to come out and address x y and z ... At the risk of shocking some i dont blame Goody for those opening 5 mins... how could you... he wasn't out there... Those that were got Blitzed... and by the time we actually got our game going....the very one Simon suggested moments earlier thatvwe would have to implement... was all but too late. I'd be careful ( anyone ) suggesting we'll simply do better in finals than they. That WAS a finals intensity game.... theyve been ramping up to this.. tbh...we wax and wane .. When we blink others score. We won an earlier outting against Carlton by denying them their desired 50 entries.. that stymied them. They turned the tables on us and did just that.. A big difference though is many other teams have been playing and entrenching their forward craft..patterns built on non-bombing.. I reality were a bit late to the party with 'better' fwd footy. ...and it showed once they had THEIR wall up. And anyone thinking games arent about missing goals ??. Well then if the converse ...kicking goals is the ideal.... then logically missing them is a reason you lose.

I still dont quite understand ( in my own thinkings ) how Salo [censored] that up. It was a daisy kick.. mear and 3 veg all day any day....except righr then it seemed. Bizarre really I dont apportion our loss to that ...just find it rather odd....esp for a normally very good kick. Tbh... Carlton won....because they won the mental battle. Earlier this year we beat them by outmanoeuvring them... That was return of serve... game set and match. Smacked our bums in the 4th qtr opening.. lost the game right there....right at the moment Goodwin had only minutes earlier said Melbourne would need to do x,y and z in the last... Carlton made us look stupid. Learnings dont win a game...goals do We need more goals.. I maybe the odd one out... I thought May had his colours lowered. Voss worked us out...and properly. The run home is far more daunting now. Prior to this weekend I thought youd have to better both Us and the Filth to look at the flag. Dont look now...someone just did

This is the stupidity of it.. Theyre attempting to prove something that didnt happen. They can't show that it did. It's a nonsense situation. If you cant show it DID occur then logic dictates you must assume it DIDN'T. .. ergo....a Goal. The umpire by definition didn't know at the beginning...but somehow does at the end ??? This argument is not about the game or indeed the outcome per se... its about this particular event. Granted...it had ramifications. So what they are saying.... is ...they couldn't verify it WASN'T touched... which is a nonsense as the proof required was that is WAS.

That wont be the best of outcomes should that have transpired. Disappointed in the Shack.. another of those ..nqr for AFL ... He's not the answer ( i now realise and concede )

Missing the point..( or goal ) It was WRONG .. blatantly wrong. The process, adjudication ( or lack ) the protocol ( how it got decided ) All of that was WRONG. The Goal umpire shouldn't have been empowered in that instance to deliberate...and when he did...he [censored] up. There was possibly no greater decision (in the contexr of the game. Who made it ? The G.U. Yes he may well only be the bunny of the moment...but that he was. Im not expecting any change in the result. I think we should have won fair and square. That's all.