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@WalkingCivilWar you agree/object ? Where do you place blame and fault, especially our dysfunction in the fwd 50... actually dysfunction from kicking in invariably. I find it odd we played quite well, and differently in our preseason games..and v Pies.. all other games is some mess of predictability and hail Mary's into the 50. We have to be one of the easiest teams to coach against imho... its just not all teams have the list needed. Those that do cut us open..some not enough qtrs...some can. Players dont invent their own game. Its instructed. They are fed a game plan. The overall idea is designed by the coach...that IS his job. He then commands his line coached to implement their aspects. Players then practice said game and play it to their best against the opposition. Often it's lamented ...the player positioned poorly or didn't do this...or that. The reality is 90% of the time they're doing exactly what they've been told. Yes, there is the aspect of players NOT doing as well as the intended idea . But itsvery easy to see our general style. We can see when player A or B either has a day out, or one he'd rather forget but they're only doing what theyre told. That we can see difference at times is not some spontaneous mass" pop up" performance it's because the instruction has changed. Im sure most of the players play thir hearts out. Im sure many are trying their best but are given a set-sheet which often extinguishes flair and regular footy nouse. Who do you( or anyone ) blame when the Box observes , acknowledges a problem then determines to do nothing ? .. Butters being an example. On thurs no one sent to curb Rohan. Who controls how we play if it isnt Goodwin ( and Co ) ? I'm interested Cheers

Stupidity comes to mind Dazz.

So that's actually 26 now i take it

Nailedit. Puts much into perspective. It fairly places the responsibility back at those who are entrusted to run our efforts. I.e.. the Coaches and rest of the FD. Thanks Dazzle. Some sanity in all of this. We either win or lose by design.

A fit Tommo beats a non fit Petty. Its not that hard really

For what it's worth i think a reasonable and legitimate question. The major cause of our straight sets exit last year was being injury riddled and a bit stuffed. Do i dare suggest it looks a bit that way currently?? Cue the "negative nazis"

There's an interesting nugget among that bucket of opinion. You might not lije Milkshake but he has and can make something of nothing. Ar times he can be that one to pick the ball outof the air 40 out..and yes sometimes theyre in the junk zone of quarters. Tbh...thats fine by me as we are very poor , imo, at capitalising on those periods.

Then why wasnt that implemented Thursday.. ?? But no... shuffle out Tommo.. and Petty spudded his evening ( to be expected). Master-stroke. The box talks [censored]

Dont confuse negativity with reality. Maybe we can revisit this at seasons end and see how we've really travelled. Dont think for a moment i dont want to win. But i dont confuse our ability to do that.

You dont catch Rohan... you either deny him or get in his way. Wasn't our forte

Hmmmm 🤔🤔🤔 Something nqr about all of this. Firstly, get better Clarry. Secondly...may the universe clarify the b.s. 😉

I would still suggest he hasnt a clue about forward patterns and craft. There is some talent there, but manifestly misdirected. Blind Freddy can see we areva mess up front. That's someone's job. That someone is Stafford.

An aberration both ways i think. Every other coach will have their strategists watching our game ( last night )

Money irrelevant imo... no one flew the flag... pathetic. He's the first to do so..no one for him.

You dont want to particularly pot one bloke or one event... but that epitomised and summed up last night.

Umm... cough... last night....cough..

Surely its up to Stafford to know what his charges can and cant do...and makeceffects to remedy it or call time. Thats his bloody job surely. Players dont pick themselves, players dont devise the game. Thats ALL the Coaches domain ...so yeah....some here will call them out.

Youre right ...you watched a different game....

Those that haven't read George's match report.... should do so. Always provides a correct and clear impression of what transpired. Three words come to mind: Lacklustre, Inept and Wasteful. We're still very Jeckle and Hyde You can't be this way and play finals with any prospect let alone winning the big one. But hey.... we're learning... Yes learning a lot about those learning. They're not that flash at learning.

They are

You were watching the whole game mr saurus. They broke away in the last but all game they found a way through.

@binman I only really have one reservation about the voracity of your suggestion of loading fatigue. Had we been playing on a 5-6 day turnaround I might give it more heed. But we weren't. We had 10 days. Sorry...not really buying it.

Can we target a Forward Coach... someone who knows wtf forward play is actually about.......

🤔🤔What happened to the team that played Collingwood? Did they get on the wrong bus ?? 🤷🤷

Just thought this should get another read. Should be pinned somewhere. Our forward set up.is a shambles ....by design. Designed by an [censored]