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Ahh.. but its both.. We were there...or thereabouts. But the rot had started. The reasons ( some possibly varied ) included the inability to finish off those games and the causality to that was part and parcel of all the things that got worse. So I would contend 22/23 and subsequent are not mutually at odds but different shades of the same .

I think some trades need to be considered while some have the currency. We aren't going to be tilting at anything for a year or two.(and..) Might as well do the unpleasant unpalatable things sooner rather than later.

The new coach bit. .. I actually ( surprisingly to some perhaps) comprehend the notion . Taking as much unecessary 'fugazi' out of the question I do still land on the side that answers. Yes, the coach needs refreshing. Not merely the coaching... but the whole shebang as its being demonstrated, I think very clearly, that we have not the 'game' ( certainly not a comprehensive and/or effective) nor the ability to get to it. By that we seem a distance off being clean and damaging. If I was to be cruel we're much better and stuffing up than getting things right. This can only be partly the players the rest is how they're coached and what it is they're coached to play. We're not winning much despite ALL the efforts. Whatever touch Simon had, is long gone. This is not about him its about the team. The team needs better, better than what's possible currently.

🤔Might be something to what you say 👍 Folk are going to have to deal with players leaving.

Definitely entertain. Been a bloody nemesis to us...lol

And why do we do that ? In hope some bastard ( possibly up there ) hears us and does something as quite plainly there's very few with the requisite intelligence down here.

Sad in the sense that we need a lot of things bettered.... and she'd be far more capable of understanding what needs to be done than those currently there.

I would agree that our list is far from fantastic as some suppose. Some talent has stalled, some staled and some is stifled. There are possibly a few rough gems but this list is never winning a flag ( my opinion). I'd also agree with Simon, you, anyone... game needs to change. I have 0% in Goody now. He's had time and opportunity and come up with NADA , Zilch. We're still trajectoring down ... still. Yes, by all means let's take emotion out of this. Quite simply we've won [censored] all games for a [censored] long time. Same [censored] wits in charge !! It's clear and simple. Wholesale change is required. The unfortunate part is it's probably nigh impossible to do what's really required, all emotion taken out. Nix half the board, Junk most the FD .. Purge half the list. Thats how bad we currently are... really.

Slightly ill comes to mind

Yes

He obviously wasn't involved in those 4 golden mins of the last qtr then ??

How patronising of you This is how 🐃💩 works. Only people.... who's [censored] did you pull that whopper out of. There is widespread disappointment and concern that Women's footy ( and I've no issue with that..) is being hollowed out in order to amass optics. It needs a lot of work. Suggest you actually talk to some in the game Bing.. there's genuine issues and complaints. A lot from... Women.. they being particularly involved as well as a subset of People. You have a lot of interesting stuff in your comments.. this wasn't one

All the very best Jai. Enjoy the game.

Brave of us calling another team shockingly bad. We could give a few teams a run for their money over that title lol

I don't know if they'll go half arsed as such but I'm sure many will get this... When your heart aligns with your mind and you hit the go button... and that carrot is oh so near you WILL try that extra bit because just maybe you might get it. But... if you're at a lower ebb, any elements of doubt or disillusionment , then you will not be at that 100% no matter how much you think you are and you will second think those extra efforts. Even if you want to often that micro hesitation is sufficient for you to fail. This is a game of micro-moments. Thousands of them. If we aren't totally switched on and 'in the moment' and dedicated to the contest we won't have to try to lose. We will have before the 1st bounce. We've seen the club drop the ball all too often. Yeah...its only the Weagles....and that's the first mistake !!! I would let dare to be so cocky atm that this is some slam dunk. We do Soooooo well with those !!!. But its ok.. Simon has it in hand. There were decent learnings from Sunday, even from the last qtr; something to add to the pile.

Anyone else see a problem here ?

I thought it was our back.... But front 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Exactly !!!!!

Just imagine that presser but with ...

Dateline Melb 31 JULY '25 A poll taken this morning taking in likely customers of Deli customers ( dairy section ) and Dan Murphy's as to the current plight of the Melbourne Football Club. Question, .. Are you aware of a review having been done into the Football Dept and other areas with regard to expected outcomes and performance ? Answers ... 1) Not sure (23) 2) We've had one ? (17) 3) Did they find anything ? (5) 4) I have total faith in the Club to make right decisions (3) 5) Prefer the 21 to the 22 (59) 6) Who ? What ? (7) 7) Thats a big question...I'm just here for the cheese. (143) Without a shadow of doubt this reporter concludes that no one really knows what the .... is actually going on. A similar survey of the Board yielded strangely similar responses.... though to be fair a few debated the 21 and 22 without announcing a decided winner.

That review... seems a very bizarre construct now. Was it bad , ill conceived, ignored, 🤷‍♂️ Just all very odd. Reckon half a dozen of us could have done it for a decent lunch and a bottle or two 😉 We ALL know what's wrong. Cue... but you can't possibly know, you're not inside !! We don't need to be driving the train, nor its conductor to understand how it derailed. Sometimes best perspectives are had from a little distance.. Your experience with boards and snr managers etc is spot on. It's borderline comical how some either can't see the trees as much as wont see the trees... then there's the 'what trees ?' brigade. I think the MFC is a combination of all. Atm The Club reminds me of someone trying to drive an M6 into a 1/4" thread... It's NQR, it doesn't work, you're still be half screwed and end up fubar . But best of all.. this is ALL by design, because someone(s) are making all the decisions off and on the field to get us to where we are today. And the same people who have got us here are suggesting they have the clarity of understanding to get us out !! Ill refer back to your opening salvo.... referencing 'cluelessness' Carry on ...

Don't know why.... just visualised Oddball uttering those words 🤣

I saw no malice in your post. Seemed to just be stating a collection of facts and observations. Despite what some might suggest I've no real thoughts or cares about Goodwin other than how he prevails ( sts ) at Melbourne. As any would I'd but him a beer , thank him as part of an ensemble that secured that ellusive win. Seasons come and seasons go. Today's hero often becomes yesterday's man. And so it has. Logic suggests when a 'part' becomes ineffective its refurbished or replaced. Time for a new part. I think you might agree. Deep down we all just want what's best for the Dees. In wanting that we'd like to enjoy the footy and our engagement with it. And that's not where I think we currently sit. Cheers

This all sounds very wonderful. Somehow images of Frasier and Niles leaping into action sprung to mind. A handful of annoyed intelligencia writing strongly worded reprimands advocating reciprocal wet lettuce slapping whilst pouring a red and cutting cheese. Don't get me wrong , telling the club what's wrong is action. But as it has been for a long time its largely ignored. You'd think someone would be instigating change at the club just on noticing a non arguable trend, or watching $$$ .. i mean members leave in droves. And yet here we are.... again. I think @Chook has his head on ok. Seems to understand the relationship correctly as an adult and makes suitable life choices according to expectations, results and the value of his breathing hours. Many do. I also understand the rusted-on types. The suggestion the club only listens to coterie groups .... give that man a cigar. This mob guards its activities, influences and power very carefully and craftfully. By all means form your action group. I wish you well. Suggest you adopt a Quixote like logo as your masthead. Those who know know, this club hasn't had competent leadership since Jackson. I admire the sentiments of the o.p. You're wasting your time. Like others I've barracked through thick and thin since 65. Sunday's debacle followed by something that read like ai slop doesn't say, 'we're a club that knows what it's doing' to me. Simply put conversing with an admin that seems otherwise focused doesn't strike me as garnering wished for outcomes. Im intrigued to how the present will play out. The silence is interesting. Good luck all. Happy trails and snappy emails !!

Cassie, rightly or wrongly he/she felt passionate about it enough to squarely bat your bowling. Thats all. The post didn't come out with ink pink you stink. Etc It laid out a reasoned and contextual rebuttal. We've all got something to say. Apparently not everyone agrees with me. Shocking isn't it. I welcome yours and most everyone's posts. I welcome aboard the pain train possiblework1999.

Sad thing is she probably could. Fair head for footy.. just sayin' ( better than some )