Am very surprised that the Irish got that sookie !! still there IS a future for them in the AFL...with those tactics they are dead set starters at Collingwood !! lol.
Oozes is far better tham Ottens... a mark taken recently by Jamar over Simmonds for mine was way better than Ottens...half of Robbos would beat the ottens mark....
but nothing will ever beat Smith's !!! :-)))))) eh Garry ....lol