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beelzebub

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  1. Brent Moloney to go , will seek 3rd club through free agency ( as per MFC site ) all but left the building. Good luck can probably take the "?" off the thread title now Id say.
  2. Ok..from the AFL site from section 3 of Free Agency rules: "His original club will receiveA compensation pick for the loss of the player, on an AFL-determined formula to apply where clubs lose more free agents than they gain in any single transfer period." This clearly indicates only one pick per club based upon the difference between gains and losses. There are no multiple picks given out.
  3. Melbourne: Brent Moloney > free agency
  4. Why doesn't everyone take a bex and watch what develops over next two seasons. This is all Hardwick meets Clarko hysteria. I.e jumping the gun.
  5. My understanding is each club getting compensation gets A pick. The value of this is whatever the residual between losses and any gains. The values are calculated by the afl according to its proprietory formula ( so god knows ) . If we lose a lot more than we pick up then youd think a reasonable pick would come our way Suits me Big spring clean followed by a raid at the market Probably struggle to recognise the team next year ( a good thing me thinks lol )
  6. perhaps...perhaps.there still seems much unsaid( captain obvious I grant ) Move on indeed. 2013's list will indeed be different and for so many reasons ans hopefully lessons learnt as you suggest McQ
  7. Melbourne: Liam Jurrah......walked
  8. Dutch gave his all when playing for the Dees. Many could/should do well to do as such
  9. WHy then isnt he at the club seeking a trade to an Adelaide club ?
  10. Only the parties themselves know all of it, and dare I say only Jurrah and his confidents know ALL. Sometimes it's quite reasonable to deduce things from what's presented. . As another alluded the term coined was the clubn will continue to offer 'persoanl' support. I too take that as differing form financial. I also see thi sas simply the club having some decency. ive made no particular suggestion about specific words either way, what ive suggested is what I have written. That is, there are probably two simply avenues of approach , one would have see the MFC accomodate Liams wish to move on and facilitate a trade..This isnt happening. So i think its fair to say he hasnt gone down that path. I call these others apologists as they are obviously sugar coating the circumstances of his going whilst ignoring the elephant. There were always two parties in this. The club and the player. In my opinion from what we currentlyhave before us I think he ( LJ) has done neither himslef and certainly not the club any favours. This despite all we ( MFC) have done to try and accomodate his 'unique' situation,
  11. It's probably the only thing he'll have gotten right about the whole thing..lol
  12. umm...Grimes IS on the banner !!
  13. Are you so blind ?Surely it stands to logic that had he, then the club would have and we would not be reading about him having "LEFT" the club. He would still be at the club seeking a trade. its not that hard for some of us, obviously a yard too far for yourself and others. He has obviously done quite a few things outside the parameters that were both wise for him to have followed and others intimated by those that he dealt with.
  14. Mate. I think many are getting the wrong idea about all this and are misdirecting their attetnion as to what it is that irritates some of us.With all due respect to Flanagan and all of the apoligists fort Liam what they are only too happy to either overlook or playdown is not the issue that 1) the lad has issues ( candidate for unstatement of the year 2012..lol ) or 2) that he wants to move closer to his family etc. or even 3) he now finds playing under Neeld all too demanding and so wants to move to a more "understanding" club its none of that Quite simply hes backhanded us. He could have achieved all he wanted in respect to the above by being honest with the club, respectful of our understanding and preparedness to assist him and seek a trade via the conventional and prescribed manner. He hasnt. He dogged us...Simple as We were supposed to accomodate his situation, but he couldnt ours !!! Thats what this is really about.
  15. I think youre playing a very straight bat WJ...and being far too kind and generous with the lattitude you afford both this bloke and his over-seers. Despite anyway you want to wash this the decent thing, the honourable thing, the manly thing to do would have been to thank the club for everything ( including bucket loads of money, lets not forget this for one moment ) and suggest the way forward was to move closer to where he wanted to be and to do so in a way which provided the result he was looking for and gave acknowledgement and respect to the club that mentored him. He could have and should have allowed for a trade to happen. He hasnt. Thats p!ss poor in any mans language. Any platitudes or condolences from Rudeboy can to be quite frank go right back up his posterior. No person ought to be denied the opportunity to explore options or pursue their career as they choose, but just as we were suggested to observe his ways and culture theres also an etiquette to all of this and as such it was shat on.
  16. you know,,,theres a reason they call it the too hard basket
  17. you know what Red..theres ways and means of doing things..A right way and a wrong way.which way do you think Liams gone about things ??
  18. Can I take a moment to address a notion thats perpetrated in the media : i.e that Liam needs to REIGNITE his career !!! wtf ?? If it went out ( the flame ) it went out it went out at his own hand ( literally ) , by his own direction. Melbourne hasnt extinguished his career. If anything we have tried...and tried to fan the flames and help keep it thriving. This now smacks of a persoanl agenda. That or a wimpy "I cant face reality ,so its someone elses fault .....bwwahhhh ! " We're all our own commanders. We are responsible for our actions and discourse. Only the weak go running to blame others. This must be what he means if he needs to go elsewhere to 'reignite" his footy. Im very disappointed in this lad. i thought he had it. I thought he had that special something that set him apart from lesser lower flying mortals. Hes just mortal. Hes made mistakes. Hes making a really big one now. Either his advisers are fallible or they have an agenda, maybe they always did. I say this to you Liam, not that your likely to read this, but however: You came to us , as a club, and accepted our desire to understand your persona, your family, your 'everything'. In return we would have hoped you gave as much. We now know you cant. fair enough as such but dont come the raw prawn and diss us, dismiss us . Thats simply not acceptable. I thought youwere truly deserving of respect. Now I dont.. None what so ever.
  19. we as a club just have to learn how to play for keeps. Theres no prisoners taken. You push bluffers to the brink. Youre prepared to forego wankers. Were tooooooooo nice as a club. This must stop. NOW
  20. old..i just thought the AFL brought in rules that circumvented this. Im wrong possibly...( happens.. last time was last tuesday !! )
  21. you know...i know im old cos i havent a clue what that means..I know you refer to youth...but whats the haps with memes?? line up with tomatoes
  22. might want to change your sig mate
  23. can we simply purge this club of people who for whatever reason just dont want to wear the jumper...just go. Im tired of this crap Neeld...sharpen the scythe
  24. I seem to remember they are contracted til oct 31 for this vey reason.trade week ends oct 26. Will be interesting
  25. you know what...that assumes we aere worse off. Maybe we arent
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