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mfcss's must be loving this. fair dinkum' go backwards ??? .....sure and the world is flat and ends in 20 days !!!!! youd almost think some want us to fail.... that or have no idea and/or logic.

Chippy... I just felt the need to get the thread happening.. it will roll of its own accord I am a bit pumped in a fashion. For years , ne decades we've needed to really take the pruning shears to the Rosebush and get it back to health. Neeld ( & FD ) have done this. far too long coming but its come. Serious inadequacies have been addressed in the list whilst at the same time lancing the soft marzipan from the heart of the team. For too long like the icing, its looked good whilst hiding that we didnt have much of a cake to boot. There no real telling yet just how furtive teh new team will be but in all areas either total lackings or the shallowness have been looked at and addressed. Mids...well the traffic cops and skeletal boys have been moved on. Into the void some genuine bonefide acknowledged talent with pedigree have been injected. Inside and out, new faces. Rucks have been augmented. The back lien can return to being a backline and not a part time wandering lot of stand in forwards. Preseasons will add to the strength and girth as well as aplomb of this part of the list. The fwd end, the glamour end hasnt gone without attention either. No longer will our attack revolved or land squarely at the foot of one. Twin pillars of focus along with seasoned opportunists have been added. There some games in 2012 we all most one but for a qtr and a bloke or two; amazing really having been so undermanned. This tells me there are already some decent footballers but they simply couldnt do it alone. They wont have to anymore. So much of footy is confidence. Thats contagious. With players supporting each other better and more ably equiped logic alone suggest a quantum improvement is just around the corner. Just about every position is up for grabs and theres more players available than slots. No one is going to want to drop their game lest they find it a hard path to get back in. I have no doubt at times ( in past ) some blokes would have looked around and thought "who's kidding who here".....we're stretched beyond ability. it gets hard to get yourselves up sometimes as you just know it wot matter. Its all different now. Troops are better, the munitions are there. Just need the desire and occasion to let rip. There are going to be, like some suggest, some folks very surprised by the Melbourne of 2013. But it wont be perfect. it never will be . There will always be comings and goings, tweakings and refinements. As a coach Neeld has some chance of implementing a style that can be carried out. The foundations were put in last season for some. Others coming in already know the work required. Kids ( relative ) will now be chaperoned by Grand finalists, premiership players indeed. Some will relish not having to carry the can alone, others will thrive playing alongside more experienced players. The tenet will lift dramatically. cant wait

OD is ok hes like many of us, been around too long to experience too many false dawns; becomes hard to recognise a real one when it comes along then

strangely so will I. Some will think it folly. I just have a gut feeling ( wheres the Buscopan ) that we WILL leapfrog other teams. our kernel talent wasnt that bad, we were just invariably undermanned and some players forced to stop gap in other positions to stay the onslaughts whilst learning valuable experience. Many were unsupported , whilst others stood around etc. it will be chalk and cheese next year. The whole demeanor of the group is so different it amazing its happened in such a short perios really.

good luck with that.. Not all will understand the 'mocking' element.

can i therefore ask, does it really matter where they came from or the circumstances ? Isnt it really about what they can do, what they offer ?I see the FD as hedging their bets to a degree. Yes they will want many who are currently recovering from injuries to impact. Theyll want draftees to step up to a point. They'll want a whole raft of things But I see them as being tempered in expectation of how much from whom. I sense they look at it holistically and seek an an overall improvement. some of these 'brought in " types dont actually need to improve...they CAN play, just were starved at their previous clubs. Dawes, Rodan...hardly fringe. Pedersen..... fringe or just out of favour etc Byrnes ..fringe ? No...just not the current flavour of Geelong. BOG in interstate finals isnt that shabby really There are a few who might genuinely be fringe I'll cede if we were a V8 you might say we struggled on 4 in '12. we need to purr along with 8 to win a cup.. I think we'll bubble along next year on 6 cyl;. rough, but effective.

Theyre desperate for some "X" factor..... As a club they havent been making a lot of good decisions lately, this is testament to its continuation id suggest

Youd think the "owner" could over-ride any and everything....youd think...... ( hey Jethro )

lmao

Funny how the Culprit wont face his accusers..lol No word of explanation ??

If I may.. Anyone who answered that we HAVENT overhauled the list sufficiently to show improvement...... why not ? Where are we still lacking ? just asking

yes we lost Barty and Jurrah...but what was their real contribution for 12..?? lets be harsh.. Not that considerable. Its about synergy.. and Craig as you allude is a master. ( crossed fingers)

yes we will surprise. Possibly ourselves the most..lol.We were savaged by injuries in 12 and im sure that is one of the reasons we now seem to have much better depth and competition for places.. "Just in Case " Someone is injured....put another one in etc. Im not blind to the idea that yes, other teams can improve too , but its a game of by how much. I fervently expect or improvement to be demonstarable. GWS has a lot of "talent" but its like a slightly aged TAC team....versus MEN . Weve got rid of some of this so called "talent' for MEN..theres a reason. i also expect the Twin towers approach to be a nightmare for many opposition coaches.. Even if you can 'calm; these down theres a lot more to the amoury now.

this club just gets more professional by the day . kudos

Just to answer the question some are no doubt thinking ; 'how does he think we'll finish top 8 ' ? 1) Ive already mentioned I dont rate some of the sides ( that the bookies do ) automatically better finishers than us. 2) We have a reasonably favourable draw. If we can gel reasonably well and quickly we will present a very competitive team . i think 12 wins is quite possible, even 13. We'll account for GC and the Midgets ( both times ) I rate us better than the Pups. We have the Bummers measure. Anything could happen QB . Ought to win one of the Lions games. Port is a schamozzle. I think the Crows will come way back to earth in 13. Id prefer the Saints at the G but they're hard to quantify currently. Dont see exceptional thing for the Seaford boys in 13. Carlton will remember 13 for the year the Dees created a new hoodoo for them !! that puts us in the 8

Well i was searching for a logical place to put this and decided id have to trawl back too far. Have yo changed your expectaions of finish position wins/loss etc SINCE the list has been overhauled ?? i recalled prior to the draft/trade that the Bookies and 'illustrious' scribes alike had us very much down the list in terms of where we would likely finish, odds to Premiership, odds to top 4 even odds to final 8 etc. I note that were still averaging around 250 :1 for the cup. well reality suggests it s a nonsense figure as i dont think we will win it either. But you know I wouldnt rule it out 100% . Stranger things have occurred.. I might put a throw-away 20 on it ...what the hell..lol Where some real value occurs I feel are the odds for the 8 ; you can get 10's... not to shabby there.. Im putting 100 there I can get 70's for the top 4...what the hell.. $20 love to know what exotics are avail for Brownlow too its interesting to see and try to understand why were considered such poor bets against the likes of Richmond, Nth , Adelaide, Essendon and the bloody Crows !! i would say there are ONLY 5 teams id auto rank above us. Haw, Syd, Geel, Freo Coll WCE. Im not scared of carlton. Much of the betting numbers would have been inspired before we revitalised our list . Im not saying this revival style restock is guaranteed success but it will succeed far beyond 2012. So where are you now ? Yes not a ball has been fought over in anger, not a goal kicked in competition but you would have to be Visually impaired Frederick not realise this will be a very different Melbourne taking to the field. what say you all ?

thing is...if Viney is the second coming then Todd is Godd surely

Although, and i find it unusual , to qualify on behalf of journos I think the notion is: Of those that are draftees and play, who will have the biggest impact of having done so. i.e From those who get to play , who will we notice .In this light the list is interesting. Mostly for mine in regard to #1 10 doesnt hurt either lol

if theres a will, theres easily a way.so how willing is the 'deleter' ?

and some how this thread took a left turn i didnt notice

gold

That would be this - Port Adelaide's not ready for Liam Jurrah, says club great Warren Tredrea.

I think so H_T... i think so A Grinch moonlighting perhaps !!

of course it was bloody deleted Einstienian conclusion !! People...we have to understand .......... there is a Banana hater in our midst. Unpalatable to digest i know . Funny , and ironic that in essence they just as YELLOW as the fruit they despise !!! yeah...howd ya like them apples.. I mean bananas !! its bad enough we have some of the ilk who would usurp our great club but even worse we have someone who wants to mince with our dietary intake.!! Custard of the Cowardy type is also yellow..... fancy that C'mon Mod-anon ...embrace your inner yellow.. !!!!

Whilst i understand your view . Our return on investment was just this side of abysmal. Thats a reality.I had him pegged as a star in the making. He must be made of magnesium as he burnt bright for a very short while before extinguishing.. Shame we move on Meanwhile back at the MFC .......