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It's difficult to see anything other than experience in this role. If you go for unproven again but with the long term vision then you've got to find a way to sell it to the members that the last 2 seasons of pain they've endured was pretty much all for nothing.

There is every chance that we just wanted to persist with our method and back our guys in. You do make a good point.

I've made it clear that I don't like this jumper but if there is a time and a place to wear it, it's this one.

2010 - 2013 are some of the most misleading and bizarre years I've ever seen regarding the MFC list. So many in the media thought we had the makings of the next juggernaut. Then all of a sudden Junior and Bruce are moved on leaving us in a leadership hole, young talents Jurrah and Wonaeamirri disappear never to be seen again and young hot shot Scully bails for the cash, Trenners gets the feet from hell, Jack Watts doesn't progress at the rate that we would have liked, Trenners gets the feet from hell, the club drafts Lucas Cook and so on and so on. I do feel that Neeld had a bit more to work with than Noble when it comes to experience but what an absolute cluster this whole ordeal was. He wears the responsibility of guys like Moloney and Rivers leaving no doubt but what a trainwreck just waiting to happen. 2014 was definitely the true measure of the list as it stood at that point. The cupboards were bare and we were left with a group that had been put the ringer with several different gameplans and several different coaches in the previous 3 years. There were so many players on this list that were simply not up to it. The 2010-11 years of this club actually scare me when I think of them. I remember genuinely thinking our club was in good hands off field when we found out it wasn’t, well that was quite a shock. 186 brought that all to the boil.

Definitely not implied by you Andy however there are certainly some out there who would still rather call the coach a nitwit, despite everything he's done for us. It's hard to explain the coaching decisions or non decisions, especially when there's big results up for grabs.

I just want to clarify I'm not saying that Andy called the coach a nitwit! 🙂

Has Nick ever won any of these matches when he has a full on meltdown? Started in barnstorming fashion and then 0-40 (or 40-0 can’t remember) turning point and Novak knew he had the psychological edge from then on. His behaviour was so cringeworthy. The icing on the cake was getting annoyed with a woman in the crowd he thought was drunk who seemed to be a fan of his anyway. He has all the tools, players around the world would kill to have that serve. He absolutely needs a coach and a mentor to guide him and help him mature. As long as I can remember he’s never had a coach, you would know better than me Macca if he’s maybe had one here and there but very few players are Roger Federer and winning Grand Slams without one. I’ve wanted to like him and I’ve really wanted to see him succeed but he just isn’t the athlete we wanted him to be and it’s not what he wants to be. Good on him for making the final but it could have been so much more, so far a bit of a waste.

They're still paying for that monstrosity aren't they!

Still thinking about it. I've been toying with the idea of deciding and sharing now so it's early enough in the week for people to forget if I'm wrong or sharing right before the teams are announced so I can look like a genius if correct.

Not big on game streaks, they are too much of a sideshow and all the........ no stuff that! Come on Clarry keep it rolling!!

Any word from Ron? Would love to hear some of his memories of Noel.

It's hard to tell how much currency he has at the minute but could we offer him up for some low 3rd or 4th round picks that could be used to trade up to a second rounder maybe? The other question is after seeing what has happened with Paddy Mccartin this season could another team take a punt on him down back? Don't see it working personally but we're running out of ideas and that might be one he could be trialed in elsewhere as he wouldn't get that shot here.

Yeah that's the shot! I'm sure they both know what a tough caper this footy business is. Sad but reality, David is going to be just fine.

Andy was not happy and I totally get it, it's not like we're at the start of the season we're entering full on business time. I do think Binman supported his views though really well with how we approached these games last year. Don't want to speak for Binman here but I feel that we think it's better to come up with a somewhat plausible reason as to why Goody wouldn't change things as opposed to just calling the coach a nitwit!

It's probably the most pertinent question of the lot really. Does he have the same level of respect that he did before the incident? I'm sure he's still got it but that moment now when he may second guess pulling a teammate into line or barking instructions. 5% self doubt is all it takes and it would take a bit of time to get it back.

This was the first thing I thought of when I saw the two shaking hands after the game!

I really hope when he comes back he messes up the setup that is currently humming for Collingwood.

Bam, thread closed.

Have a great trip!

Total basketcase of a club. How many new coaches is this beast going to ruin? Go all in for Clarko now, might as well for the Hobart years.

Here we go again.

Juice Newton the country singer

Now I really want to watch those games again.

Absolutely

Can't see it