iv'a worn smith

Agree with the inside 50 count, but like I said, other than for a very small percentage of the game, Geelong were in front for the majority of playing time and obviously in front when it mattered.

If ya Aunty had a moustache she'd be your uncle

How am I doing that? I am simply responding to Loges point about having 'momentum'. Had we had the experience of Lewis and the possible x factor of Hogan, the outcome may have been different, given the momentum Loges speaks of. All I am saying is, when the game was in the balance, the loss of those 2 guys was more of a factor, in my view, than errant shots at goal.

Sadly, we will never know. Either way, at the risk of sounding repetitive, had any one of those misses been goals, we cannot predict what the outcome of the subsequent centre clearance would have been. Last week, I thought we had broken Carlton, but we didn't, as they headed us in the 3rd quarter. It was only our class that got us through in the end. Geelong, however, are an entirely different proposition.

But we didn't, and still lost by as as good as 5 goals. My point is, we gave it our best shot and had to grind it out to get back in the game and overtake them for for the period that we did. After that and Maxy lost, we had spent our petrol tickets. I think this loss truly puts into perspective just how costly the loss of Lewis and Hogan, through stupidity, was to this outcome. I don't blame 'inaccurate' goal' kicking for one minute.

I did not say we did not throw it away, I simply make the point that you cannot have a correlation between the circumstances which see a goal kicked and the ball going back to the middle for another contested centre clearance against the fact, that points were kicked. Again, the fact is we lost by as good as 5 goals, after the stirring 3rd quarter effort. Other than that, we were behind for most of the day. Fact.

Now that I can agree with.

Good luck to you and Roosy, but it is simply not logical.

Behind at quarter and half times and lost the game by 5 goals!!!! No-one on this planet can say the outcome would have been different, even if we had slotted any one of those misses.

You can only hypothesise on that. As I said......goal...... ball goes back to the middle ............ centre clearance goes which way? But when a point is scored, you have more of an opportunity to set your zone for the subsequent kick in.

What about for a fair and equitable outcome?

Read above. You kick one of those goals and the ball goes back to the middle. No-one can predict what the next play will be in that scenario. To keep saying; 'if only we had kicked straight' is moot. We didn't and we cannot know what the next play would have been if we slotted even one of those misses. The loss of Lewis, Hogan and obviously big Max hurt us more than anything else. In the end, we lost by 5 goals. Enough said.

Already players who have had their careers prematurely ended, due to a series of concussion issues, have been paid compensation by the AFL. In terms of the amount of compensation? We will never know, as the terms are subject to confidentiality. However, there is sure to come a day where a civil action for damages will be initiated, with the fall out being substantial. Whether Rowe had "delayed" concussion or not, if he has had any concussion related symptoms at all, he should not have been permitted to play. The Carlton/Essendon game was a hard slog in the wet and with so many bone jarring hits, he could have suffered again. In this case it beggars belief. In the case of Cripps, there have been reports that he received a 'hit' prior to the Lewis incident, which could have resulted in the hairline fracture of the jaw. As things stand now, the entire MRP process is fraught and certainly not consistent.

Other than the 3rd quarter, we were behind for most of the day, playing catch up. As good as the 3rd was, you can't keep coming from behind against a team of the calibre of Geelong

I loved his work. His satire showed just how ridiculous most politicians are. He has gone too soon of course and after the year of famous passings we had last year, this continues to put all of our mortality into sharp focus. Sympathy to his family and friends.

I agree with that. But we chased for most of the day. In the end, the required "grind", coupled with Gawn going down, took its toll. And, as I said, two champs stood up for the opposition when it counted.

I keep saying, if a goal is kicked rather than a point, then the subsequent play obviously becomes an entirely different scenario. The ball goes back to the middle. As a result, you obviously cannot say that you would necessarily get another shot or same number of shots on goal. Yes, bad kicking does not aid the cause, but you can't say the game would not have the same result, had we had kicked that goal or even goals. The "bad kicking" issue is a moot point really. In the end, Dangerfield and Selwood stood up when it counted. This factor alone sheets home how bad it was to lose Lewis and Hogan for this game. Pedo in for Gawn for mine.

While by no means condoning the nicotine habit, imagine if players from the 60's and 70's were subject to such scrutiny???? I remember the days of the 1/4 and 3/4 time huddles, where the durries would could come out, along with the form guide and the trainers letting players know which horse won the 4th race at Flemington. As they say, boys will be boys, so let's not go over the top with this one. I can remember Tex Walker, a few years back, being filmed necking a crownie in the stands, while being out of the side injured. He seemed to thrive afterwards and is flourishing today.

Be proud tonight

get a grip some of you people, really.

Nev Jetta on Marngrook tonight

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Ahhh. I wasn't aware of that. What do they say about people in glass houses?

Anybody else hear Mark Fine's diatribe on this last night? Painful

Hopefully