daisycutter

you claimed people said he should be delisted.......i can't find one who did you claimed people said he shouldn't be given a chance ......i didn't get that impression as for recruiting blunders, b-grader, comparisons to wines........these are just opinions.....get over it

no-one is saying toumpas should be de-listed or not given a chance nor are they saying he can't improve many are just giving their opinion on his abilities at afl level as they see them. that's what forums do

how's that itch coming along bbo? it takes longer than your 2 weeks from a bad to a good haircut too oh the schadenfreude

s'pose you won't be posting tomorrow bbo?

well i thought this was a toumpas thread

we can only hope so

you're right about his ability to find and use space. he can also be a nice kick if given space but he is as slow as molasses and is hopeless in contested footy or man on man he has a long way to go

i think the problem with 20 is that they have then left school for 2 years and are starting to build careers and may think twice whether they continue into professional afl footy. to do it i think you would need an elite well funded u21 competition. You'd still have to allow 18yo's to be drafted but they would have to compete against the older u21's however i don't our population is big enough to support elite-u18, elite-u21, AFL and all the state leagues

getting away from footy New South African Toilet Door Lock indicator

biggest problem drafting players from the u18 comp is they don't play the same style of footy as the afl they don't flood, zone or play defensive football (under instructions i believe) they are more into attractive offensive footy without the negative tactics of senior footy and are thus often unprepared when they step up to afl drafting u18s in the present setup is too much of a lottery

statistics also show that we beat wc in most measurements (and still lost by 93 points)

so sorry bbo........i will ask lordweaver to invoke some heavenly support for you just remember there are no atheists in the fox holes so now is the time for you to make your peace and repent

bit philosophical tonight bbo.....................you need a drink to restore yourself

sheesh, can we get some of what they are on? oh wait a minute .........................

still waiting on the selfie

haha. was he mexican looking and smelling of garlic let me know if you get svetlana on trolley duty, she's a real leadfoot

someone must've pulled it...........privacy reasons?

byrnesy and pedo next (representing the fwds)

he did post it......page back

think you missed my point.........i can accept a certain amount of (necessary) spin but not what we've been copping

apparently the most thieved item at vic market is collingwood footy socks (worth $3.50) someone must be doing a good marketing job there - lol

yeah, "hird is angry"......stop the presses robbo is flying his true colours i've lost all faith in him having any genuine objectivity and therefore credibility

sue, just because "all clubs do it" doesn't mean they all do it as frequently and strongly as the mfc seem to be doing lately nor is it in the same context as being such a disaster of a club which has sacked most of its management for lack of performance and promised a new level of realism in managing the club saying "all clubs do it" is to much of a cop out

I can see a place for the current emblem (which i don't mind as an emblem) and a place for a more marketing oriented logo (promoting the "Demons") leave the current emblem for more official stuff and have a very simple demon logo for merchandising and marketing can't see why you can't have both A competition (with prize) for a (new) demon logo might be a good idea P.S. wouldn't mind if the current emblem was slightly simplified too

thought we had a whiz-bang art director / advertising exec type on the board