Redleg

Ridiculous. You value him less than Lever, Gibbs at 29 and Wingard. First two were 2 first rounders and Wingard is being placed in the same category, a hot and cold flanker.

GC will take Lukosius and Rozee who are good mates as well to try and keep them up there.

To me Gaff is gone from WC as if he was staying he would be announcing it now, to give them a lift for the GF. I would think that on monday or tuesday he will announce his preferred club. According to Pro Dee's source that will be the Roos. That will see a few dominos start to fall, as for one, the Eagles will be into Kelly, the Cats' one, big time. This is going to be an interesting 3 weeks.

Is Paul Salmon still playing?

Is this the trade thread, because that is all I am interested in at the moment?

And Cerra has just extended his contract and won’t be cleared.

Maybe he is the closest we can get to an American giant, who can play forward or ruck.

May will be 27 in January. Probably has 4 seasons in him. He is 193cms and that is not big for a key defender these days. He is averaging only 15 games a year over his 8 years. He is not quick and will get slower. I am not sure he is the best bet. Would we better placed, if trading Jesse, to ask for their early 2 first rounders, if Neale goes and Alex Pearce, maybe clearing Kent back home in the deal?

We are in the box seat and Freo are desperate.

Lovely post.

Exactly what I posted.

As long as we are not the ones stuffed, leave it to the turkey.

Yep it is but you have to try. Well Lever was 2 high picks at the time and Jesse is worth more as a key forward who can play in the midfield, than a sweeping defender. Personally I want to keep him, but we are talking on the basis he wants to leave.

With cranberry sauce.

It's not GC's pick it would be Lions' if they get Neale and give it to Freo. After GC gets 3 for Lynch it would be 5 & 6 if that was the scenario. I would want both and try to keep both and find a player and a later pick to satisfy GC for May. Then we are in for some chance at exciting talent.

Finally we get a realistic assessment. I would want their first pick and the Neale pick and Brayshaw, with which we might get May for one of those picks. Then the deal would be May, a top rated young player and Brayshaw. That is what a smart club would achieve. Hogan cost us 2 top picks and we have stood by him, as he has developed through a lot of lost games through injury and illness and is now entering his best years and he is contracted. I want a great deal IF he wants to go, or forget it. The Dockers are desperate for a big fish to calm the members and he would be a whale.

Who is the younger mid that will be a FA like Gaff and not cost us another 2 first round picks? Different scenarios.

Yes he was a kooky beatnik who would greet his mate with “ like hi Dobie”.

I will put you all out of your misery, the G stood for Walter.

Incorrect try again.

Incorrect try again.

I’ve shown you he has kicked 60 more goals in the same games as Kennedy and you dismiss it as just a stat. Then you say stats could show Watts was decent. Unbelievable.

People need to quote posters correctly. I said he COULD become our Kennedy not that he is.

Jesse Hogan Born:12-Feb-1995 (Debut:20y 51d Last:23y 181d) Height:195 cm Weight:100 kg Year Team # GM W-D-L KI MK HB DI GL BH HO TK RB IF CL CG FF FA BR CP UP CM MI 1% BO GA Totals 71 32-0-39 685 459 393 1078 152 81 13 110 17 174 20 132 81 37 14 458 629 124 183 87 5 44 Averages 17.75 45.07% 9.65 6.46 5.54 15.18 2.14 1.14 0.18 1.55 0.24 2.45 0.28 1.86 1.14 0.52 0.20 6.45 8.86 1.75 2.58 1.23 0.07 0.62 2015 Melbourne 1 20 6-0-14 178 134 83 261 44 19 25 1 45 5 20 17 6 5 118 139 47 52 22 1 12 2016 Melbourne 1 21 9-0-12 206 149 104 310 41 33 4 29 8 47 1 39 19 10 6 123 189 43 63 24 3 12 2017 Melbourne 1 10 5-0-5 91 51 51 142 20 6 15 2 26 3 19 9 5 3 55 87 10 21 9 1 6 2018 Melbourne 1 20 12-0-8 210 125 155 365 47 23 9 41 6 56 11 54 36 16 162 214 24 47 32 14 Josh Kennedy Born:25-Aug-1987 (Debut:18y 255d Last:31y 28d) Height:196 cm Weight:103 kg Year Team # GM W-D-L KI MK HB DI GL BH HO TK RB IF CL CG FF FA BR CP UP CM MI 1% BO GA Totals 220 112-2-106 1887 1296 651 2538 559 306 52 519 15 486 38 467 254 227 69 1190 1370 323 591 259 15 119 Averages 16.92 51.36% 8.58 5.89 2.96 11.54 2.54 1.39 0.24 2.36 0.07 2.21 0.17 2.12 1.15 1.03 0.33 5.41 6.23 1.47 2.69 1.18 0.07 0.54 2006 Carlton 5 9 1-1-7 36 32 16 52 5 4 1 11 15 1 17 7 8 25 30 5 8 3 1 2007 Carlton 5 13 2-0-11 57 50 40 97 6 5 40 27 4 16 6 19 10 9 40 55 7 6 15 1 2008 West Coast 17 7 1-0-6 55 46 34 89 7 4 1 7 19 2 12 9 5 34 55 9 6 7 4 2009 West Coast 17 16 6-0-10 150 110 52 202 31 17 2 28 2 40 4 35 16 13 76 128 23 32 23 1 9 2010 West Coast 17 22 4-0-18 199 130 61 260 41 19 1 60 1 69 3 58 25 27 3 108 149 28 34 30 3 15 2011 West Coast 17 23 16-0-7 208 144 62 270 59 38 70 69 4 55 25 32 4 150 125 51 65 42 3 15 2012 West Coast 17 9 7-0-2 58 43 16 74 18 14 13 13 1 16 7 11 3 39 35 14 24 7 1 1 2013 West Coast 17 21 8-0-13 210 143 63 273 60 23 1 69 2 60 1 44 26 21 6 137 137 34 62 16 1 17 2014 West Coast 17 20 10-0-10 175 114 51 226 61 33 62 1 33 6 46 23 26 11 90 131 17 56 19 1 10 2015 West Coast 17 25 18-1-6 241 168 92 333 80 55 52 1 60 5 44 28 20 12 154 184 39 101 28 3 18 2016 West Coast 17 23 16-0-7 229 148 71 300 82 37 1 69 3 45 4 52 34 26 17 151 157 42 87 30 1 15 2017 West Coast 17 19 11-0-8 166 111 59 225 69 39 5 27 27 32 24 18 13 112 111 34 72 28 10 2018 West Coast 17 13 12-0-1 103 57 34 137 40 18 24 1 20 1 37 20 11 74 73 20 38 11 4 Jesse Hogan 152 goals in his first 4 years in 71 games. Josh Kennedy 90 goals in his first 5 years in the AFL in 67 games. Jesse averaged 50% more disposals in those games as well. I think you are the one that needs to feel really embarrassed. Also I was rubbishing the get rid of Hogan thread. I never said he would have made a difference yesterday, so don't change the meaning of my post. I said he could be our Josh Kennedy and people want to get rid of him. He is on better track than Josh was at the same stage.

Why are we talking about May, he is apparently off to the Pies.