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The Carlton loss that cost us a prelim said it all for me in 23. Dump kick by viney with 60 sets on the clock. Didn't dezeve a g f on that performance. Ii don't hate the pies club per se. It's their moronic crowd that's the problem. Worse when tools like Eddie are in charge. Will watch their slide next year with satisfaction

Which is i suspect the ugly hagan story. Dogs ready to terminate contract for various grounds. Jamara saw writing on the wall and played ball accordingly. Good move Bevo and Dogs

Nailed the issue Vagg. In the real world of contract law that's exactly what should happen and does happen. Unless one party wishes to enforce their rights. Much kudos to the bombers for taking this action. And fresh airing the hawks is priceless after Mitchell started the whole issue. And now they're sooking. Geez. At least we stood our ground and not paying any of tracs money. The club prepared to pay huge amount of clarrys say more about clarry than us. A past player friend in the know couldn't be happier for us.

King opinion based on...? Just asking . I don't have a view yet except he is preferable to Bucks

Poor disposal? Classic Dees talent. I don't want dashing defenders that can't hit targets. Pass

I feel your pain deeminion. But clarry was a powerhouse star but times change and I got sick of dump kicks in an era now when precision is everything. Even now though I marvel each week being privileged to watch big Max. My best in this century Flower best of all time. Saw his entire career. Chin up. I think culture change big time is on the way. Clarry leaving helps with that

Depends on the kicking skills and ability to hit targets on the outside of those Bishops. . Chess Grand master King has a clear preference for that type of piece. Otherwise they're just pawns for sacrifice purposes only.

Spot on . For once we will get what we need re Trac. Tim Lamb was unequivocal. The deal will "...be in the best interests of the Melbourne Football Club..." Fascinating few weeks coming up for the club. Mihocek is a fine symbol of culture improvement to start with.

Lewis was the first green shoots of credibility. Big impact in that regard. And still kept up sniping approach for us. Excellent footy brain must have been a bonus in the locker room too.

My pies tragic friend who absolutely warned about Buckley- "don't take him", is a massive fan of Mihocek and says he's thrived even though playing a lonely hand as a sole big forward. Says he'd be a great get for us.

On the money E T imo. Trac and Oliver will forever be in my heart for their service but both have / had issues that would prevent a serious culture reset. G. Lyon's insightful question to King this morning inferring lack of good kicks in the team allowed Stephen to explain in length about how the game has passed by teams hard on the inside only. The ball needs ultimately to be fed outside to excellent distributors where the damage can be done. Apart from bowey who do we have. That's what we need coming in the other way. Clarry will be better off in a new environment and so will we be. Trac is just being trac. Huge test coming up for our list management to not sell the farm. Can't see this happening again under new management in smith and guerra.

Right about Byron sadly. A town full of lost souls.

Can someone explain the hype on Sam Flanders? Not familiar with him at all and his finals stat's look average at best. Just asking

I reckon that's a possibility. The finals showed crows they are way off the pace still to win a flag. Trac may just get them in real contention and be worth the cash risk

Your first para sums up nicely how my cats friends have felt for a number of years jnr. I comment to them on how well their season is going but it means nothing to them fearing another finals failure for the cup. They still complain about Scott's role in their demolition by Max in the 21 of. When will their club ever get serious about appalling ruck stocks.

Given the news last night Trac had touched down in the city of churches I came on here for the subsequent entertaining meltdown commentary. Christian could easily done this trip on the quiet instead of waltzing through the airport arrivals. Tells me something message-wise from him. Are we over him as a saga and have just moved on.? Forever he'll be a dee legend but I sure am.

It should. They surely must understand the home ground issue and its impacts in finals as you clearly spell out above.

Ive said this elsewhere on D'Land Jnr. Whilst I envy their finals successes in the early rounds at finals time, there's no scrutiny on this club whatsoever for this stat. But there's crickets from the media verse. caro puff piece yesterday was a classic of this genre. Why is it so, ? Is it playing at home on a ground 30m narrower than the G? september impacts. ? Mid-tier players escape through home and away's easy kills at Kardinia park? Danger was never going to repeat his prelim form again, but everyone assumes he can walk on water. He can't. Lions are way ahead of them across the ground, and Fagan's coaching , e.g Gardiner straight to Camerron, Neale on at half time, etc, clearly got the best of Scott. My Geelong neighbours are tearing thier hair out today at the lack of Plan B during the game, assuming level at half time was OK, but htey could see that after the earlier finals walloping of the Lions somethng wasn't right and normal transmission had been resumed in the Lions coaching box.

I rate him also , esp on match days. But he should be with the club facilities, salary cap rots etc etc. Feedback to me is that nowehere near the level of success has been achieved that should follow. But its amazing, esp in Geelong ,what many cats fans say to me. Just reporting the facts ma'am.

Agree Ghostwriter. Try living in Geelong as a non-Geelong fan. Its no fun whatsoever.

Prudent management? Thats easy when you have a huge debt that alledgedly Frank Costa 'negotiated' with their bank away for cents in the dollar

The AFL confirmed its so the Lions players if successful tonight can fly home to sleep in their own beds, rather than hang around Melb for another day. Makes sense and is fair to them. Especially if it helps prime them to beat the Stewart-less Cats next weeks.

my cats tragic friends before last night said that they don't rate scott coach wise. Mainly about the 1 flag after around 9 prelims. They attribute 2011 as absolutely due to bomber and Jimmy bartel. With the clubs advantages they just feel let down most years.

Gee if only the AFL had decisisve leadership to deveolp an acceptable Plan B.

Anyone else apart from me on here now experiencing serious shadenfreude with probable media/AFL meltdown over this hiccup, whilst we quietly gloat we ' got our man' in Steven King and are moving on. I don't mind a ground - just not there and not for now $1.13Billion. Upgrade coming up IMO for Bellerive or Launceston.