Whispering_Jack

So far, there’s not much joy from a short term point of view. The selectors have some headaches coming up this week.

Looking further forward, AMW, Koltyn Tholstrup and Kynan Brown look very promising while the taller youngsters are getting an education and need time.

1 hour ago, Demonland said:

 

The Saints need to hire whoever defended Maynard after the Qualifying Final last year. After pulling off a not guilty on that one, this should be easy. 

Riley Beveridge and Cal Twomey discuss the No. 1 contenders 

17 minutes ago, Demonland said:

@Whispering_Jack you will be happy to know that Verrall has been named in the Ruck and is not this week's mystery injury of the week.

… but no Van Dam 😎

Oscar Van Dam Height: 188cm, Weight: 83kg. D.O.B: 20-04-2005

It turns out that North Launceston was coached by Casey’s current coach Taylor Whitford who steered them to back-to-back premierships in 2018-19.

Oscar Van Dam was a member of the Tasmania Devils Under 18s team in 2022/3. They were pretty strong last year and he was rated just outside that upper echelon that included high draft picks Colby McKercher, Ryley Sanders and James Leake. He He performed exceptionally well in the preseason, highlighted by a 6.10 two-kilometre time trial result.

One match report from the Under 18s said that “the half-back brought plenty of dash and flair to the game with his willingness to take proceedings on. He looked clean below his knees, even when under pressure by the opposition, and made sure to be closely checking his opponent when the Knights looked dangerous inside their forward 50. Despite getting the ball at near top speed, Van Dam kept his composure more often than not, putting the ball out in front of his teammates and giving them the best chance at taking possession.”

Sounds promising. Does he get picked for Casey this week?

15 minutes ago, rumpole said:

This one intrigues me - the name conjures up the legendary street fighting kickboxer from the movies. Jean-Claude is a gun!

I was also intrigued but for a different reason. I know nothing about him but he’s not the first player to come to Casey out of North Launceston.

A few years ago, the club recruited Jay Lockhart from there and, after a year at VFL level, he was picked up by Melbourne in the 2018 Pre-season supplemental selection period. Lockhart made his senior debut against Geelong in round 2 of the 2019 season. He played 22 games but was delisted by Melbourne following the club's drought breaking premiership in 2021. I believe he went north and played for Southport.

Coincidence or is someone in that neck of the woods pointing promising players in our direction? 

I will do some research into this mystery man and report back.

CODE SPORTS has an online feature by Paul Amy previewing every VFL team for 2024. This is the excerpt for the Casey Demons:-

VFL 2024 club-by-club preview: Paul Amy's guide to how every team is shaping up for this season by Paul Amy (link to be provided)

“CASEY DEMONS

Coach: Taylor Whitford (second season)

Last year: 11-7, wildcard round, elimination final

The state of play: No team finished last season more disappointingly than Casey, which went into the elimination final against Footscary at Box Hill with a depleted line-up after Melbourne made a string of players unavailable. That the reigning premier suffered a 79-point drubbing was no surprise.

Not even VFL champion James "Moose" Munro could lift the undermanned and overwhelmed Demons. The three-time best and fairest and 150-game player left the club a few weeks later, to coach Cora Lynn in country football. The Dees also lost the experienced Matt Buntine and George Grey in the off-season.

But they made some key signings in clean-kicking former Saint Leo Connolly, Footscray tall Caleb Lewis, Frankston onballer Mitch Szybkowski and Box Hill Hawk Kai Windsor, as well as Kobe Shipp (Dandenong Stingrays), Brayden La Planche (Eastern Ranges) and Riak Andrew (Dandenong Stingrays) out of the Under 185. Late February brought an outstanding addition in Collingwood VFL co-captain Campbell Hustwaite, who trained with the Magpies for an SSP listing. Oscar Van Dam, who made his senior debut for North Launceston at the age of 15 in 2021, is another signing for the Demons. Put the recruits with returnees Mitch White, Tom Freeman, Roan Steele, Ryan Valentine and Harvey Neocleous, and there's more than enough talent to blend with the Melbourne contingent and reach the finals again.”

It’s always hard to predict results of games at this level early in the season but Casey’s practice match form has been anything but outstanding while I believe that Box Hill was impressive against Essendon last week. So I’m tipping the Hawks. 

Someone please call the RSPCA …

21 minutes ago, KC from Casey said:

There are two VFL games on today. The teams were put up on the AFL site (VFL section) last night. I expect the rest of the teams to be put up this evening but this isn't guaranteed. :)

FWIW - Box Hill have named their squad for this game.

My best memory of VFL Park is my first. It was in 1971 when John “Diamond Jim” Tilbrook made his debut on a wintry day against South Melbourne. 

He was a big man - 184cm and, dare I disclose this in these nanny days, he weighed a massive 94kg. When he ran out onto the ground in the gloomy conditions, he looked like Superman. He was wearing his Melbourne colours but he might well have worn a cape and had an S on his chest. When he took his first kick, he was on the wing and went bang unleashing a monster 70 plus metres kick that almost sailed right through the big sticks. The Dees won easily and I thought we had a new messiah. Sadly, it didn’t turn out that way.

2 hours ago, Leopold Bloom said:

Seriously though.

Wasn't the AFL going to review the NGA rules and make them a bit more friendly towards the southern states?

With the economy continuing to be tough on everyone, how can you justify the spending necessary on nurturing players from the Northern Territory without some guarantee that you, rather than another club, have the opportunity to reap the benefits of your work? 

7 hours ago, Demonland said:

@Whispering_Jack 

Not the other JB - he was already paired.

This is the odd couple. One’s a forward with a great tank and the other’s a backman with a great kick. That’s what makes them an odd combo 😎

5 minutes ago, Demon 16 said:

Kalani does live up on the Gold Coast doesn’t he? Or in Brisbane at least.

Is he actually any good though? I have read mixed reports as to whether he’s touted as a top end talent, or likely to go later in the draft (or even rookie draft).

He was an  All Australian at Under 16 level last year so he is more than "any good".

He can play at his father's old club and has the opportunity of learning ruck craft at Melbourne under Max Gawn. 

Is there anything else that he needs to know?

8 hours ago, Left Foot Snap said:

Sorry if it's a stupid question, but how are two Brisbane academy members playing for Sandringham? How is that nurturing "local" talent and their pathways?

Ashcroft is a father/son prospect and is here by virtue of the fact that the family moved here from Brisbane a few years ago. Marshall is a Queenslander who came to Melbourne to study at Melbourne Grammar but he remains a Lions Academy member and therefore tied to that club. I agree however, that it’s time to overhaul the NGA rules which provide very little incentive for southern clubs to nurture footballers if there’s open slather for those good enough to be picked in the first 40 in the national draft.

That said, watch out for one such player on the MFC list, Andy Moniz-Wakefield, to make his debut with Melbourne in the very near future.

The Coates Talent League kicks off at the weekend and two clubs stand out at this early stage of proceedings. The Sandringham Dragons are aiming for a third consecutive premiership and appear to have great all round strength and depth with three Australian Academy Squad members in father/son prospect Levi Ashcroft (brother of Will and also skilful midfielder, Brisbane Academy member Sam Marshall and Luke Trainor. The Dragons also have good numbers in the Vic Metro squad. They will be challenged strongly by the Oakleigh Chargers who boast the early favourite to go #1 in the National Draft in midfielder Finn O'Sullivan along with the highly rated Jagga Smith, Tom Gross and Charlie Richardson, the grandson of Richmond legend Kevin Bartlett. Melbourne father/son prospect Noah Yze is also in their squad.

There are a few Melbourne Next Generation Academy players in the mix as well. Ricky Mentha, who already has his own page on Demonland, is with the Gippsland Power. Another three Demon NGA’s are at the Dandenong Stingrays. Riak Andrew (192cm) spent time with Casey VFL over the off-season and made their development list, returns to the Stingrays as a 19-year-old and shares his brother's athleticism. Also at the Stingrays is indigenous prospect Coren Giliam, a crafty small forward who can impact up the ground while Tarion Ah-Mu, 198cm bottom aged tall from Berwick, is also tied to the Demons' NGA.

He’s a Demon supporter, an author, podcaster and a comic. His weekly Monday Knee Jerk Reaction is always good value. Here’s Titus’ take on Melbourne’s Round 1 victory over the Doggies:-

Melbourne (109) v Western Bulldogs (64)

Some strange decisions from the Bulldogs, with Caleb Daniel made the sub and the midfield avoiding Aaron Naughton like the plague.

That all said, they started strong, and what was most disappointing was how much they dropped off in the dying stages.

Melbourne started slowly, but the usual suspects dragged them back into the game.

Clayton Oliver, with his unorthodox preseason, delivered 35 disposals and six clearances.

I’m not saying every player should take his approach, but I’ve seen worse results.

There was a sense of being in a French restaurant at one point as former Dee James Harmes and Steven May got into it, resulting in Harmes headbutting May.

Best news - the W today!

Last night’s performance by the Swans again suggested to me that one advantage to be had from losing to them was that we had the front row seat to witness the direction football is taking in 2024. Let’s see if we’re up to doing what they did last night.

2 hours ago, DeeZone said:

The top 10 are looking great WJ  but we are unlikely to get a look in, probably more likely picks 15 upward unless we crash and burn. What are the KPF/KPD prospects like in ‘24 do they go deep?

Too early to say at this stage. We need to wait for the start of the Coates Boys League in Victoria and the various State League senior and under age competitions elsewhere.

2024 Coates Talent League Boys Testing Day Results

The article reveals the top 10 results recorded by players from Victorian-based clubs at the 2024 Coates Talent Boys Testing Day.

20m Sprint

Archie Taylor (GWV Rebels/Cobden) 2.796 sec
Julian Callahan (Gippsland Power/Leongatha) 2.863
Kade Dwyer (Murray Bushrangers/Shepparton Swans) 2.872
Jack Gerardi (Western Jets/West Footscray) 2.874
Thomas Legudi (Calder Cannons/Aberfeldie) 2.878
Blake Leidler (Oakleigh Chargers/Surrey Park) 2.879
Taj Hotton (Sandringham Dragons/Hampton Rovers) 2.882
JayDe Varlet (Dandenong Stingrays/Beaconsfield) 2.884
Cody Anderson (Eastern Ranges/Healesville) 2.885
Ben Seers (Sandringham Dragons/Beaumaris) 2.886

Standing Vertical Jump

Harley Hicks (GWV Rebels/Lake Wendouree) 83cm
Gabriel Stumpf (Northern Knights/Warrandyte) 79
James Allison (Northern Knights/Montmorency) 77
Daniel Snell (Western Jets/Yarraville Seddon Eagles) 77
Luke Trainor (Sandringham Dragons/Old Brighton) 77
Floyd Burmeister (GWV Rebels/Redan) 76
Brady Hall (Geelong Falcons/Colac) 75
Ryan Muir (Eastern Ranges/Wantirna South) 75
Nash Ramage (Bendigo Pioneers/Echuca United) 75
Jack Whitlock (Murray Bushrangers/Shepparton) 75

Running Vertical Jump (Right)

Floyd Burmeister (GWV Rebels/Redan) 95cm
Nash Ramage (Bendigo Pioneers/Echuca United) 95
Coen Ainsworth (Murray Bushrangers/Wodonga) 90
Finn O’Sullivan (Oakleigh Chargers/Koroit) 90
Gabriel Stumpf (Northern Knights/Warrandyte) 90
Archie Taylor (GWV Rebels/Cobden) 90
Ollie Hannaford (GWV Rebels/Sandhurst) 89
Harry Armstrong (Sandringham Dragons/Ormond) 87
Ned Renfree (GWV Rebels/East Point) 87
Taj Hotton (Sandringham Dragons/Hampton Rovers) 86

Running Vertical Jump (Left)

Daniel Snell (Western Jets/Yarraville Seddon Eagles) 102
Ben Rongdit (Geelong Falcons/Colac) 98
Archie Taylor (GWV Rebels/Cobden) 96
Matt Whitlock (Murray Bushrangers/Shepparton) 96
James Allison (Northern Knights/Montmorency) 95
Ned Renfree (GWV Rebels/East Point) 95
Taj Hotton (Sandringham Dragons/Hampton Rovers) 93
Ryan Muir (Eastern Ranges/Wantirna South) 93
Thomas Sims (Northern Knights/Montmorency) 93
Jack Whitlock (Murray Bushrangers/Shepparton) 93

Yo-Yo

Jett McLaughlan (Northern Knights/Diamond Creek) Level 22.4
Archie Caldow (GWV Rebels/East Point) 22.2
Josh Dolan (Sandringham Dragons/Beaumaris) 22.1
Jeremy Newsome (Eastern Ranges/Healesville) 22.1
Harry Albon (Calder Cannons/Craigieburn) 21.8
Nedd Bennett (GWV Rebels/East Point) 21.8
Ryan Commandeur (Northern Knights/St Mary’s) 21.8
Liam Farrar (Northern Knights/Diamond Creek) 21.8
Patrick Said (Calder Cannons/Sunbury) 21.8
Zach Travers (Sandringham Dragons/Old Brighton) 21.8

AFL Agility

Douglas Kerr (Oakleigh Chargers/Ashburton) 7.724 sec
Oskar Taylor (Eastern Ranges/Upwey Tecoma) 7.764
Lachy Dovaston (Eastern Ranges/Blackburn) 7.777
Sebastian Murphy (Northern Knights/Montmorency) 7.787
Ollie Hannaford (GWV Rebels/Sandhurst) 7.788
Taj Hotton (Sandringham Dragons/Hampton Rovers) 7.807
Sam McDonald (GWV Rebels/Ballarat) 7.858
Jake Woodward (Northern Knights/Montmorency) 7.866
Nedd Bennett (GWV Rebels/East Point) 7.876
Thomas Sims (Northern Knights/Montmorency) 7.909

Sounds like he might be a fair way away from contention at the moment but there’s another Brayshaw on the horizon - Freddie who has made the Sandringham Dragons list. This is an appraisal from Code Sports:-

63 Freddie Brayshaw

The cousin of Angus and Andy Brayshaw and the son of James Brayshaw. A high-level cricketer and footballer at Haileybury College, he's a hard-running wingman for the Dragons, with a view to training as a midfielder later on.

17 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

Nothing to see here. Collingwood will argue that it was unavoidable, incidental and unintended and he’ll be sweet.

It was 12 months ago in Round 1, 2023 at The MCG and the Demons handed out a football lesson to the Western Bulldogs. Kozzie Pickett was in sensational form and Ben Brown and he booted four goals each as the team led all night to win by 57 points. Pickett found himself in trouble with the Tribunal giving him two weeks off for a crude bump on Bailey Smith. 

MELBOURNE 3.3.21 9.4.58 13.8.86 17.13.115

WESTERN BULLDOGS 2.4.16 5.9.39 8.10.58 9.11.65

THE TEAMS 

MELBOURNE 

B H. Petty J. Lever J. McVee 
HB J. Harmes A. Tomlinson J. Bowey 
C L. Hunter C. Oliver E. Langdon
HF K. Chandler B. Brown C. Spargo
F K. Pickett B. Grundy A. Neal-Bullen 
FOLL M. Gawn T. Sparrow C. Petracca
I/C A. Brayshaw B. Laurie T. McDonald T. Rivers SUB J. Melksham EMG M. Hibberd J. Jordon J. Van Rooyen

New faces Brodie Grundy (Collingwood) Lachie Hunter (Western Bulldogs) Bailey Laurie (Oakleigh Chargers) Judd McVee (East Fremantle)

WESTERN BULLDOGS

B T. Duryea L. Jones C. Daniel 
HB B. Dale A. Keath E. Richards
C B. Williams M. Bontempelli J. Macrae 
HF B. Smith A. Naughton J. Ugle-Hagan 
F A. Scott S. Darcy R. Lobb
FOLL T. English T. Liberatore A. Treloar
I/C O. Baker J. Bruce M. Hannan J. Johannisen SUB T. McLean EMG H. Crozier B. Khamis J. Sweet 

New faces Oskar Baker (Melbourne) Liam Jones (Carlton) Rory Lobb (Fremantle)

19 hours ago, Tarax Club said:

Would like to know the body weight too. Gives an idea of the physical stature of the player. 

Newton’s laws of the motion can’t be applied without the mass. Maybe the people who are running ‘the show’ should supply sideshow mirrors. 

The AFL has adopted a policy of not releasing the body weights of individual players. Apparently, this has something to do with not body shaming fat or thin footballers so the media only gets supplied with height figures. Please don’t get me started on this one.