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From House of Footy

2023 AFL Draft Rankings: October Edition

 

The final wrap

Players who remain uncontracted -

Adelaide James Borlase 
Brisbane Lions Blake Coleman, Rhys Mathieson, Darryl McDowell-White, Carter Michael, Dayne Zorko
Carlton Nil
Collingwood Aiden Begg, Josh Carmichael, Will Kelly, Nathan Kreuger
Essendon Jaiden Hunter, Will Snelling, Patrick Voss
Fremantle Nil
Geelong Mitch Hardie, Flynn Kroeger, Oscar Murdoch
Gold Coast Suns Sandy Brock, Levi Casboult, Sam Day, Oskar Faulkhead, Hewego Paul Oea, Alex Sexton, Jeremy Sharp, Jake Stein, James Tsitas, Bodhi Uwland
GWS Giants Cooper Hamilton, Lachlan Keeffe, Callan Ward
Hawthorn Lachie Bramble, Fergus Greene, Ned Long
Melbourne  Jake Melksham Andy Moniz-Wakefield, Kye Turner 
North Melbourne Aiden Bonar, Jack Mahony, Kayne Turner
Port Adelaide Orazio Fantasia, Sam Hayes, Scott Lycett
Richmond Mate Colina
St Kilda Tom Campbell, Thomas Highmore, Daniel McKenzie
Sydney Swans Jaiden Magor, Sam Reid, Sam Wicks
West Coast Jordyn Baker, Tyrell Dewar, Zane Trew
Western Bulldogs Dominic Bedendo, Hayden Crozier, Taylor Duryea, Lachlan McNeil, Roarke Smith

THE TRADING CHRONICLES by The Oracle

Part 2

The AFL’s free agency and trading period came to an abrupt end yesterday with the usual fast and furious circus frenzy of activity. In the end, a number of players and draft picks had changed hands over a little more than a week and a half of horse trading that involved the usual huff, bluff, some recriminations and even the odd whiff of scandal if the social media could be believed. 

Clubs were claiming victory of sorts and no doubt, the pundits will be declaring the winners and losers as early as this morning.

However, in reality, we won’t know until several months (and probably years) hence as to who succeeded in their aims, who did well and who failed as a result of the process … as they say, “the proof is in the pudding is in the eating”. The value of its quality will be judged on the direct experience the clubs achieve from their input into the process — or, put simply, on its results.

The best and most immediate example of this assertion is with Collingwood, which last year added four players onto its list as a result of free agency and trades — Billy Frampton, Bobby Hill, Dan McStay and Tom Mitchell. Three of the four players were members of the 2023 premiership team with free agent McStay missing out due to a knee injury. Another recruit in Oleg Markov was also in that team after gaining a list place in the Supplemental Selection Period.

None of the new names engendered real excitement twelve months ago but, on the last day in September, Hill and Mitchell were considered in their team’s best half dozen players. Their other new teammates will forever be known as part of a celebrated premiership. The Magpies’ other trades involved the departures of All-Australian Brodie Grundy to Melbourne and another handy player in Oliver Henry who joined his brother at Geelong.

So we look at what happened with each of the 18 AFL clubs in the 2023 AFL Free Agency and Trade period …

Adelaide 

Received: Chris Burgess, pick 14, end of first-round (for Tom Doedee), future second (tied to Melbourne)

Gave: Shane McAdam, Pick 23, Pick 26

Brisbane Lions 

Received: Tom Doedee, Brandon Ryan, Pick 39, Pick 54, future fourth (tied to Hawthorn)

Gave: Tom Fullarton, Jack Gunston, future second (tied to Brisbane), Pick 61

Carlton

Received: Elijah Hollands, Pick 21, future fourth (tied to St Kilda), future fourth (tied to Bulldogs)

Gave: Zac Fisher, Paddy Dow, Pick 17, future third (tied to Carlton), future fourth (tied to Carlton)

Collingwood 

Received: Lachie Schultz, Pick 33, future second, future third (both tied to Hawthorn)

Gave: Jack Ginnivan, Taylor Adams, future first (tied to Collingwood), Pick 39, future second, future fourth (both tied to Collingwood)

Essendon

Received: Ben McKay, Todd Goldstein, Jade Gresham, Xavier Duursma, Pick 35

Gave: Brandon Zerk-Thatcher, Massimo D'Ambrosio, Pick 52, future third (tied to Essendon), future fourth (tied to Essendon), Pick 73

Fremantle 

Received: Future first (tied to Port Adelaide), future first (tied to Collingwood, future second, future fourth (both tied to St Kilda)

Gave: Lachie Schultz, Liam Henry, Pick 23, future second (tied to Fremantle), future fourth (tied to Fremantle)

Geelong

Received: Pick 25, Pick 76, Pick 94

Gave: Esava Ratugolea

Gold Coast Suns

Received: Future first (tied to Bulldogs), future end of first (NM special assistance), Pick 23, Pick 26, Pick 28, Pick 35, future second (tied to Brisbane), future third (tied to Essendon)

Gave: Mabior Chol, Elijah Hollands, Chris Burgess, Pick 4, Pick 46, Pick 51, future fourth (tied to Gold Coast)

GWS Giants 

Received: End of second round pick 

Gave: Matt Flynn

Hawthorn 

Received: Mabior Chol, Jack Gunston, Jack Ginnivan, Massimo D'Ambrosio, Pick 47, Pick 49, future second, Pick 44, Pick 62, Pick 63

Gave: Jacob Koschitzke, Tyler Brockman, Brandon Ryan, Pick 33, pick 54, future second future third, future fourth (all tied to Hawthorn)

Melbourne 

Received: Jack Billings, Shane McAdam, Tom Fullarton, Pick 11, end of second (for James Jordon), future third (tied to Bulldogs)

Gave: James Harmes, Pick 14, Pick 27, future second (tied to Melbourne) Pick 35, Pick 47, future third (tied to Melbourne)

North Melbourne 

Received: Zac Fisher, Dylan Stephens, Bigoa Nyuon, Toby Pink, first round (for Ben McKay), Pick 17, Pick 18

Gave: Two future end of first, Pick 21, Pick 65

Port Adelaide 

Received: Brandon Zerk-Thatcher, Esava Ratugolea, Ivan Soldo, Jordan Sweet, Pick 73, two future fourths (tied to Essendon and Carlton)

Gave: Xavier Duursma, Future first (tied to Port Adelaide), Pick 41, Pick 49, future fourth (tied to Port Adelaide), Pick 76, Pick 94

Richmond 

Received: Jacob Koschitzke, Pick 41, future second (tied to Fremantle), future fourth (tied to Port Adelaide)

Gave: Ivan Soldo, Bigoa Nyuon, Pick 50

St Kilda 

Received: Liam Henry, Paddy Dow, end of first (for Jade Gresham), future third (tied to Carlton), Pick 40, future third (tied to Melbourne)

Gave: Jack Billings, Nick Coffield, Future second, future fourth (both tied to St Kilda), Pick 35, Pick 56

Sydney Swans 

Received: Taylor Adams, Brodie Grundy, James Jordon, Joel Hamling, end of first (NM special assistance)

Gave: Pick 25, Pick 33, future second (tied to Sydney), pick 46

West Coast Eagles 

Received: Matt Flynn, Tyler Brockman

Gave: Pick 44, Pick 63

Western Bulldogs 

Received: James Harmes, Nick Coffield, Pick 5, Pick 46, Pick 50, Pick 51, Pick 52, Pick 56

Gave: Jordon Sweet, Pick 10, Pick 17, future first (tied to Bulldogs), Pick 40, future third, future fourth (both tied to Bulldogs)

I know I’ve been in full cliche mode today but I don’t hesitate to say everything is all in the eyes of the beholder. Just as there was nothing in Collingwood’s 2023 that screamed brilliance about its recruiting, we simply don’t know how things will pan out for the clubs in 2024. A few were barely involved in the nitty gritty while a few were busy … we’ll see how the season unfolds and, of course, with more opportunities to recruit and the draft to come, there’s lots more water to flow under the bridge.

From Melbourne’s perspective, the three players taken collectively played very little football in 2023 but who knows how they will fare in 2024? 

I sense that getting Billings would represent a concession that we’re unlikely to be able to pick up Harley Reid in this draft.

It’s the penultimate day of the Trade Period, Magpies forward Jack Ginnivan requested a surprise trade, with Hawthorn set to make a move, Shane McAdam was traded to Melbourne from Adelaide, while Port confirmed they are prepared to use pre-season and national draft picks to secure Esava Ratugolea and Brandon Zerk-Thatcher if needed.

Smart recruiting and picked up very cheaply by the Saints. 

Where they stand after Round 7:-

84. Tyla Hanks
80. Kate Hore 
43. Olivia Purcell 
42. Eden Zanker 
37. Alyssa Bannan
27. Lauren Pearce
22. Eliza McNamara
17. Blaithin Mackin 
16. Maddison Gay 
15. Sinéad Goldrick
13. Paxy Paxman
12. Shelley Heath
9. Lily Mithen Eliza West 
6. Sarah Lampard
4. Rhiannon Watt 
3. Tayla Harris
1. Tahlia Gillard Aimee Mackin

The draft order as of today with Melbourne’s picks 6, 11, 42 and 93 -

ROUND ONE

1. West Coast Eagles
2. North Melbourne 
3. North Melbourne (Ben McKay compensation pick) 
4. Hawthorn 
5. Western Bulldogs (received from Gold Coast Suns in pick swap) 
6. Melbourne (tied to Fremantle) 
7. GWS Giants (tied to Richmond) 
8. Geelong 
9. Essendon 
10. Adelaide 
11. Melbourne (received from Gold Coast Suns in pick swap) 
12. Sydney 
13. St Kilda 
14. Adelaide (received from Gold Coast Suns in Chris Burgess trade. Gold Coast Suns received from Melbourne in pick swap) 
15. North Melbourne (tied to Port Adelaide) 
16. GWS Giants 
17. North Melbourne (received from Carlton in Zac Fisher trade)
18. North Melbourne (received from Gold Coast  Suns in pick swap. Gold Coast Suns received from Western Bulldogs in pick swap. Tied to Brisbane)
19. Collingwood 
20. Adelaide (Tom Doedee compensation pick) 
21. St Kilda (Jade Gresham compensation pick) 
22. Carlton (received from North Melbourne in Zac Fisher trade. North Melbourne received In assistance package)

ROUND TWO

23. West Coast Eagles 
24. Gold Coast (received from Adelaide in Chris Burgess trade. Tied to North Melbourne)
25. Port Adelaide (received from Fremantle in pick swap. Tied to North Melbourne compensation)
26. Carlton (received from North Melbourne in Zac Fisher trade. North Melbourne received from Sydney in Dylan Stephens trade. Tied to Hawthorn) 
27. Gold Coast Suns (received from Adelaide in Chris Burgess trade. Tied to Gold Coast Suns) 
28. Gold Coast Suns (received from Melbourne in pick swap)
29. Richmond 
30. Brisbane (tied to Geelong) 
31. Essendon 
32. Gold Coast Suns (tied to Adelaide) 
33. Hawthorn (tied to Western Bulldogs) 
34. Collingwood (received from Sydney Swans in Taylor Adams trade)
35. St Kilda 
36. Gold Coast Suns (received from Melbourne in pick swap)
37. West Coast Eagles (tied to Port Adelaide) 
38. Gold Coast Suns (tied to GWS Giants) 
39. Collingwood (tied to Carlton) 
40. Western Bulldogs (tied to Brisbane Lions) 
41. Port Adelaide (tied to Collingwood) 
42. Melbourne (James Jordon compensation pick) 
43. GWS Giants (Matt Flynn compensation pick)

ROUND THREE 

44. Hawthorn (received from West Coast in Tyler Brockman trade) 
45. Sydney (received from North Melbourne in Dylan Stephens trade) 
46. Fremantle (tied to North Melbourne compensation pick)
47. Brisbane (received from Melbourne in Tom Fullarton trade. Melbourne received from Sydney Swans in Brodie Grundy trade. Tied to Hawthorn)
48. Western Bulldogs (received from Gold Coast Suns in pick swap) 
49. Port Adelaide (tied to Fremantle) 
50. Richmond 
51. Brisbane (tied to Geelong) 
52. Essendon 
53. Western Bulldogs (received from Gold Coast Suns in pick swap. Tied to Adelaide) 
54. Hawthorn (tied to Western Bulldogs) 
55. Sydney Swans 
56. St Kilda 
57. North Melbourne (tied to Melbourne) 
58. West Coast (tied to Port Adelaide) 
59 GWS Giants 
60. Fremantle (tied to Carlton) 
61. Brisbane Lions 
62. Gold Coast Suns (tied to Collingwood)

ROUND FOUR 

63. Hawthorn (received from West Coast in Tyler Brockman trade) 
64. Fremantle (tied to North Melbourne 
65. North Melbourne (tied to Hawthorn) 
66. Gold Coast Suns 
67. Brisbane Lions 
68. Richmond 
69. Western Bulldogs (tied to Geelong) 
70. Carlton (tied to Essendon) 
71. Gold Coast Suns (tied to Adelaide) 
72. Western Bulldogs 
73. Essendon (tied to Sydney Swans) 
74. Gold Coast Suns (tied to St Kilda) 
75. Western Bulldogs (tied to Melbourne) 
76. Port Adelaide 
77. GWS Giants 
78. Carlton 
79. GWS Giants  
80. Collingwood 

ROUND FIVE 

81. West Coast Eagles 
82. North Melbourne 
83. Hawthorn 
84. Gold Coast Suns 
85. Fremantle 
86. Richmond 
87. Geelong 
88. Essendon 
89. Adelaide 
90. Western Bulldogs 
91. Sydney Swans 
92. St Kilda 
93. Melbourne 
94. Port Adelaide 
95. GWS Giants 
96. Carlton 
97. Brisbane Lions 
98. Collingwood  

2024 DRAFT SELECTIONS TRADED IN:

Fremantle 

• Round one pick (tied to Port Adelaide)

Gold Coast 

• Round one pick (tied to Western Bulldogs)

• End of round one pick (North Melbourne assistance)

Melbourne

• Round two pick (tied to Sydney Swans)

• Round three pick (tied to Western Bulldogs)

Port Adelaide

• Round two pick (tied to Fremantle)

Sydney Swans 

• End of round one pick (NM assistance)

Western Bulldogs 

• Round three pick (tied to Gold Coast Suns)

In addition to the above -

• Jade Gresham becomes the third Bomber acquired through free agency this week.

• Jack Gunston makes a shock request to return to Hawthorn after a one-year Brisbane stint.

• Tom Hawkins re-signs with Geelong to put any trade rumours to bed.
 

The Swans were the big movers today, landing Brodie Grundy and Taylor Adams in respective deals with Melbourne and Collingwood, plus Dylan Stephens is now a Roo after a busy day at the trade table for Sydney.

• Grundy is officially a Sydney player, joining the Swans from Melbourne. The Demons have received pick 46 in this year's draft as well as Sydney's second-round pick next year in exchange for sending the ruckman to the Harbour City.

• Sydney has added a hard edge to its midfield, completing a deal with Collingwood to land Magpies vice-captain Taylor Adams, with the deal going through in exchange for pick No.33.

• Stephens has joined North Melbourne in a trade whereby the Swans also parted with pick 25 and received North's end of first-round pick next year plus its pick 44 this year.

• Zac Fisher is heading to the Roos along with pick 17 and the Blues get picks 21 & 25 in return.

• in a massive trade, Melbourne trades picks 14, 27 and 35 in exchange for pick 11. In the trade, Adelaide will land Gold Coast’s Chris Burgess and pick 14 in exchange for picks 23 and 26, North Melbourne will get pick 18 in exchange for an end of 2004 first round pick, Gold Coast gets picks 23, 26, 27, 35 and an end of 2004 first round pick for picks 11, 18 and  Burgess.

Today’s big trade and free agency news on AFL Trade Radio.

• The AFL has deemed that the Kangaroos will receive 2023 National Draft pick #3 by way of free agency compensation for Ben McKay who has signed with the Bombers.

• Premiership Demon James Harmes has become the first player officially traded this year. He’s headed for the Whitten Oval for a future third-round pick.

RESULTS

AFL DRAFT COMBINE: 2KM TIME TRIAL

5:48 min - Tarkyn O'Leary (Sandringham
Dragons)
5:52 min - Darcy Wilson (Murray Bushrangers)
5:56 min - Ethan Read (GC Suns Academy)
6:05 min - Jordan Croft (Calder Cannons)
6:06 min - Caiden Cleary (Sydney Swans
Academy)
6:06 min - Aiden O'Driscoll (Perth)
6:08 min - Archie Roberts (Sandringham
Dragons)
6:11 min - Connor O'Sullivan (Murray
Bushrangers)
6:13 min - Joel Freijah (GWV Rebels)
6:17 min - Harvey Johnston (Sandringham
Dragons)
6:17 min - Koltyn Tholstrup (Subiaco)

AFL DRAFT COMBINE: 20M SPRINT 

2.871 sec - Aiden O'Driscoll (Perth)
2.915 sec - Will Graham (GC Suns Academy)
2.916 sec - Caleb Windsor (Eastern Ranges)
2.923 sec - Lance Collard (Subiaco)
2.930 sec - Kane McAuliffe (North Adelaide)
2.954 sec - Zane Zakostelsky (Claremont)
2.963 sec - Phoenix Gothard (Murray
Bushrangers)
2.965 sec - Taylor Goad (South Adelaide)
2.993 sec - Eion McElholm (Ireland)
2.996 sec - Harry DeMattia (Dandenong
Stingrays)

AFL DRAFT COMBINE: AGILITY

8.157sec - Lance Collard (Subiaco)
8.194 sec - Koltyn Tholstrup (Subiaco)
8.204 sec - Angus Hastie (Geelong Falcons)
8.208 sec - Bodie Ryan (Glenelg)
8.233 sec - Zane Zakostelsky (Claremont)
8.244 sec - Ashton Moir (Glenelg)
8.260 sec - Reece Torrent (Peel Thunder)
8.263 sec - Darcy Wilson (Murray Bushrangers)
8.302 sec - Aiden O'Driscoll (Perth)
8.331 sec - Nate Caddy (Northern Knights)

AFL DRAFT COMBINE: STANDING
VERTICAL JUMP

80cm - Zane Zakostelsky (Claremont)
78cm - Phoenix Gothard (Murray Bushrangers)
78cm - Will Graham (GC Suns Academy)
78cm - Mitchell Edwards (Peel Thunder)
77em - Kane McAuliffe (North Adelaide)
76cm - Darcy Wilson (Murray Bushrangers)
75cm - Riley Hardeman (Swan Districts)
74cm - Jack Delean (South Adelaide)
74cm - Taylor Goad (South Adelaide)
73cm - Aiden O'Driscoll (Perth)
73cm - Caleb Windsor (Eastern Ranges)

AFL DRAFT COMBINE: RUNNING
VERTICAL JUMP

98cm - Darcy Wilson (Murray Bushrangers)
97cm - Zane Duursma (Gippsland Power)
95cm - Will Graham (GC Suns Academy)
95cm - Kane McAuliffe (North Adelaide)
94cm - Mitchell Edwards (Peel Thunder)
94cm - Zane Zakostelsky (Claremont)
92cm - Aiden O'Driscoll (Perth)
92cm - Caleb Windsor (Eastern Ranges)
91cm - Riley Hardeman (Swan Districts)
90cm - Cooper Simpson (Dandenong Stingrays)

AFL VIC STATE DRAFT COMBINE

“Meanwhile, Melbourne father-son prospect Kynan Brown finished third in the 2km time-trial at the Victorian state combine.

“Brown, the son of former Demons defender Nathan, had a strong finish to the year for the Oakleigh Chargers.” Herald Sun

RESULTS

VERTICAL JUMP

1. Billy Willson (Dandenong Stingrays) - 75cm 
2. Ry Cantwell (Eastern Ranges) - 72cm 
3. Jacob Grant (Dandenong Stingrays) - 72cm 
4. Lachlan McArthur (Western Jets) - 72cm 
5. Geordie Pavne (Tasmania Devils) - 72cm 
6. Cooper Trembath (Eastern Ranges) - 70cm

RUNNING VERTICAL JUMP

1. Ry Cantwell (Eastern Ranges) - 91cm 
2. Jacob Grant (Dandenong Stingrays) - 91cm 
3. Billy Wilson (Dandenong Stingrays) - 91cm 
4. Cooper Trembath (Eastern Ranges) - 88cm 
5. Geordie Payne (Tasmania Devils) - 86cm 
6. Patrick Snell (Lions Academy) - 86cm

AGILITY 

1. Kristian Ferronato (Northern Knights) - 8.108 seconds 
2. Ry Cantwell (Eastern Ranges) - 8.237
seconds 
3. Geordie Payne (Tasmania Devils) - 8.357
seconds 
4. Billy Wilson (Dandenong Stingrays) - 8.357 seconds
5. Oskar Smartt (Bendigo Pioneers) - 8.413
seconds

20m SPRINT

1. Billy Wilson (Dandenong Stingrays) - 2.938 seconds 
2. Ry Cantwell (Eastern Ranges) - 2.950 
3. Geordie Payne (Tasmania Devils) - 2.981 
4. Lachie Charleson (GWV Rebels) - 2.991 
5. Kobe Shipp (Dandenong Stingrays) - 3.010

2KM TIME TRIAL

1. Harvey Thomas (Giants Academy) - 5:55 mins 
2. Tom Anastasonoulos (Geelono Falcons) - 6:11 
3.Kynan Brown (Oakleigh Chargers) - 6:12 
4. Oliver Poole (Bendigo Pioneers) - 6:16 
5. Michael Rudd (Geelong Falcons) - 6:17

Today’s Trade Radio talking points:-

• Tom Doedee joins Brisbane as a free agent after eight seasons with the Crows. Adelaide gets an end of first round draft pick

• Jade Gresham tells St Kilda he wants to play at Essendon next year

• Todd Goldstein a Bomber

• Contracted Docker Lachie Schultz has requested a trade to Collingwood 

• Where does Paddy Dow fit in St Kilda's midfield? 

• Taylor Adams' trade request to Sydney 

• Adrian Dodoro spoke about Essendon's trade targets 

• Graham Wright was interviewed about Collingwood's offseason moves

• Tom Hawkins and Cats not seeing eye-to-eye on contract.

AND … two pick swaps …

1. Fremantle has traded 2023 National Draft pick 22 and a future second-round selection to Port Adelaide for the Power’s future first-round pick.

2. The Western Bulldogs have sent 2023 National Draft picks 10 and 17 and a future first-round selection to the Gold Coast Suns for picks 4, 46, 51 and a future third-round pick.

West Australian bolter blitzes draft combine

Where they stand after Round 6:-

79. Tyla Hanks
68. Kate Hore
42. Eden Zanker
31. Olivia Purcell
27. Lauren Pearce
22. Eliza McNamara
20. Alyssa Bannan
16. Maddison Gay
13. Paxy Paxman
12. Sinéad Goldrick Shelley Heath Blaithin Mackin
9. Lily Mithen
6. Sarah Lampard
4. Eliza West
3. Tayla Harris
1. Tahlia Gillard Aimee Mackin

All in a day’s work …

The second free agent to change clubs, he will play with West Coast in 2024.

Giants get end of second round compensation.

 

Trivia question for the future.

Who was the first free agent to change clubs in 2023?

James Jordon (Melbourne to Sydney) for an end of second round draft pick.

• Ben McKay (North Melbourne) headed to Essendon

• Tom Doedee (Adelaide) has chosen Brisbane

• Joel Hamling (Fremantle) is expected to nominate Sydney

• Matthew Flynn (GWS Giants) has chosen West Coast Eagles

• Todd Goldstein (North Melbourne) is off to Essendon

• Scott Lycett (Port Adelaide) St Kilda, Geelong and Melbourne* have shown some interest

• Jade Gresham (St Kilda) is set to play at Essendon

* unlikely now that it looks like the Demons are getting Tom Fullarton from Brisbane.

And the breaking news …

And yesterday’s wash up …

Some good things out of AFL Trade Radio but to show their desperation for news … this has nothing whatsoever to do with trading …