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To the ~gOoDwIn iS pLaYiNg fAvOuRiTeS~ crew, remind me of all these AFL standard players we have that are banging down the door at Casey? 

On 14/06/2024 at 21:52, John Demonic said:

Are we not one of the clubs throwing a big offer at Logan McDonald? I don't know how realistic a move is so just popping the question, as i cbf creating a Logan McDonald Thread.

If we had Sydney's midfield and system going inside 50, we wouldn't need him.

No one would be talking about how poor our forward line was and JVR, Fristch, Pickett and hell maybe even Petty would be looking like superstars.

How many here would have said yes to Tom Lynch if he was available?
Anyone see how ineffectual he was last night when Richmond were getting it in slow and high to him, just like we do?

Our midfield is what needs all the attention.

8 minutes ago, Slartibartfast said:

How pathetically mean spirited of Richo to keep the gates shut so the (I imagine) 20 or so people attended had to watch from outside the fence.

All power to your friend WCW.

Closed training sessions are not uncommon.

On 31/05/2024 at 17:33, Demonland said:

 

If he doesn't go down the slide wearing the #10 guernsey and helmet, he is a [censored] uncle.

10 minutes ago, BigBadBustling said:

No, apparently they've all be sent to the shops to buy some f@#ks. Because a few players clearly had none to give on Sunday.

Do you feel better now?

But I thought Stafford was the problem and all we needed was a decent tall forward?

1 hour ago, samcantstandya said:

Weird situation where a guy who was a ruck is the forward coach, we're probably the only club that does and everyone complains about our dysfunctional forward line.

Only club with a forward coach that was a non-forward when they played?

Lets check...

Adelaide - Scott Burns
Brisbane - Murray Davis
Carlton - Jordan Russell
Collingwood - Justin Leppitsch
Essendon - Dale Tapping
Fremantle - Jaymie Graham
Geelong - James Rahilly
Gold Coast - Brad Miller
GWS - Jeremy Laidler
Hawthorn - Adrian Hickmott
North Melbourne - Xavier Clarke
Port Adelaide - Chad Cornes
Richmond - Kane Lambert
St Kilda - Robert Harvey
Sydney - Jarrad McVeigh
West Coast - Matthew Knights
Western Bulldogs - Matt Spangher

Not many names who can draw on their experience as forwards amongst that lot.

6 hours ago, BAMF said:

Which player would you have selected in you were Jason Taylor? Put it on the record so you can gloat when that player smashes it in the next 6 months and you will get all the kudos on here for a few years.

Saad El Hawli (23yo) is the one that looked the most ready made and could potentially play this season.
Half back/wing with speed to burn who has dominated in VFL. 

That said, I'm very happy to have Kentfield.  My main disappointment with not getting El Hawli is that Essendon did, and they've already got a very handy player in Sam Durham from a previous mid-season draft.

I'm not sure why this is even a story, other than "Scoops" McLure and "Exclusive" McGuire thinking they are on to something new, which it isn't. 

I used to have one of those "AFL sports ears" devices years ago, though which you could hear the umpires talking to the players and also talking to each other. There was also a voice from someone else up in the stand talking to the umpires during breaks in play such as stoppages or centre bounces.


Edit - I wish they still had those sports ears things as it was really interesting to listen to, particularly the interactions bewteen player and umpires that you couldnt hear on TV.  That said, I most certainly did NOT enjoy hearing Razor Ray blowing his nose on to the ground or hoiking up whatever gunk he had in his throat before each centre bounce...  🤮

2 minutes ago, Go Lordie said:

Fair dinkum you blokes. The umpires do NOT have a set against the Dees. The umpires do NOT try to swing games in favour of the other teams. If they did, they would be out of a job. Full stop. They do occasionally make errors - split second decision, partially obscured view, all of that - but can we please stop this mindless bleating as though we are some sort of perfect team that never makes mistakes? Don't forget, the more F'ing and B'ing you blokes do only drags our game down and deters people from becoming umpires. Stop it. Just make sensible, analytical statements about our players, coach and game plans and the opposition players, coach and game plans. Talk about what you saw, not what you imagine. When you blame the umpires, it only makes you look like a nuff-nuff. 

Did you even read what you quoted?

11 minutes ago, layzie said:

Would anyone be offended if i said that Carlton fans are braindead morons?

Special mention to the knuckle draggers hurling abuse, spitting and chucking rubbish at the umpires as they were walking off.  Lucky they have that perspex thing to cover them or they would have copped it. 

Saw umpire 32 stop, glare at one of them and just shook his head in disgust before walking down under the stand. 

Absolute filthy animals. 

Anyone would have thought they had been screwed out of a win.
 

3 hours ago, Demonland said:

I wish our forwards got 1/10th of the frees Curnow gets gifted. You can't go near the guy.

This is a bit of a myth. This season he has had 9 frees in 8 games.  Of those, 7 of the 9 frees were in games vs North and Adelaide, and in the remaining six games there have been four games where he hasn't received a free at all.

Edit - just went and checked last season.

Including finals, he played 26 games and got 39 frees. 

Of those 39 frees, 11 were in two games vs the Filth (LOL) and another 11 were in three games vs North, Saints & West Coast. 

Remaining 21 games he had 17 frees in total, including nine games where he didn't get any at all, two of which were against us.
 

2 hours ago, Maldonboy38 said:

Tom Stewart had little impact - did Turner play a defensive role on him? Tom Stewart having a mediocre game is a coaching triumph in itself. 

Assume all the various protocols/checks were followed, but it actually looked like he was still a bit concussed to me.

Just not quite with it the entire game.

I (usually) enjoy reading the opposition supporter takes post game, so...

What they're saying down at Kardinia Park

A few of the more level headed highlights:

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Honestly Petty couldn't have caught Covid in a New York slum in 2020 up till tonight, and today he makes Carey look mortal. Staggering seeing him mark everything that came his way.

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GAME PLAN
Melbourne played a short chipping game. Their patience allowed them to break through our defence effectively and denied us run and carry from the back half.. Consequently, we struggled to capitalize on our strengths and initiate fluid ball movement. Their defensive efforts effectively thwarted our attempts to inflict damage on turnovers.

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CONCLUSION
We were outplayed and outcoached by a better side on the day.
Our 2 key forwards were non-existent and our game plan was exposed.

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Tactically they were all over us. First half was a masterclass in how to stop us. They pressed high and were smart with their ball movement, fast into space to gain territory, slow once we're set up our zone inched to the F50 then tried to find a clear player, kept us hemmed in and under pressure we couldn't use the corridor which made our ball movement easy picking for their KPD. They gave us none of those fast breaks after a quick turnover. Didn't help how out gunned we were in the middle. Couldn't win it on the ground ball, couldn't move the ball foot and couldn't equalise it in the air let alone win it. How the * did we only lose by 8 points. We could have stole it in the end. He had possession chains that looked good, where as they just controlled the game as a whole. Our aerial presence was near non-existent. Really wanted Rohan to play a full game, Cameron won't start on the wing again, we outsmarted ourselves. If Hawkins can't make himself into a target we're a player down.

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Every time we’ve played Melbourne for the last, I dunno, 4-5 years I’ve been terrified of their midfield and expected to get blown off the park. To put it bluntly, Trac, Oliver and Viney are better than anything we’ve been able to field during that time.

Despite all the shooting ourselves in the foot tonight with dumb decision making, poor skills and woeful goalkicking, in a way I’m feeling more confident of our chances this season than I was this afternoon.

We lost clearances by 1, contested possession by 3 and inside-50s by 2 - in other words our makeshift midfield basically broke then with them in most of the key stats.

If we got just 30% of the polish we normally expect from Jezza, Stewart, Duncan, O Henry (despite the 3 goals he had some terrible moments) and co, we would have been every chance to steal that one.

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Sure there were a few costly umpire calls.
Lots of missed kicks and handballs
An epidemic of bad kicking at goal
Cats had a chance to steal it at the end.
Many believe to Cats blew it...

NO! the Demons deserved the win.
Dees simply wanted it more
Dees were more disciplined
Dees took the body at every contest
They held their tackles
They held on to stop Cats playing on.
Cats were always under intense pressure
Rushed decisions and made clangers

In Contrast Cats played bruise free footy.
Waited for, rather than attacked the ball
Rarely brought the man down
Didn't stick tackles to stop ball movement.
Stood back from the mark
Allowed Dees to play on fluently
Allowed time and space to execute skills

Cats were hunted instead of being hunters.
Chris Scott needs to fix this mental problem

@WalkingCivilWar question for you as figured you'd know. Actually, two...  🙂

1. Why is our banner always significantly larger than the opposition's, both width and height? Are our crew just significantly more talented than everyone else and go above an beyond the expected standard each week?

2. Why is the banner no longer lifted, dropped, rotated, lifted, dropped...etc, so everyone around the ground can see what it says? Are we worried about a 2018 GF Filth banner type situation?

5 hours ago, BarnDee said:

tell ya what an insipid performance like last week will see us getting torn a new one , need to be intense right from the start 

Ill advised as this comment may be, I'll go with it anyway....  😱

I saw a stat a few days back that said that of the games we have lost since early 2020, only two games have been by more than 25 points.

So basically, even if we are playing average (and there definitely has been periods of that particularly mid-year), we dont often get flogged, we are invariably always in the contest and just a quick burst of good footy away from being right back in it and/or taking the game away from the opposition.

Have faith 😎

How good is to have a game vs Geelong NOT in Geelong (first time since R4, 2021) 

I'm interested to see how they play Petracca today. O'Connor not being named would suggest they aren't going to have anyone sit on him, but after the relative success Brisbane & Richmond had I'm curious to see what they have up their sleeve. Surely they wont let him run around doing as he pleases? 

1 hour ago, Phil C said:

Wot??

also, maybe time to rename this thread. Nothing much about training???

Hope that helps  🙂

8 hours ago, Lucifers Hero said:

I watched AFL360 a few weeks ago when Petracca was on and they invited young Eddie in with him.  It turns out Eddie had been at training the previous day.

I've just done a DL search of threads in which he is discussed and the ones below came up with clips of Eddie at training and/or on AFL 360.  The second thread was a 'Family Day' training session.

 

 

Longer version of the fan day video if anyone missed it the first time around...

"Here's some more big guys"  😂

3 minutes ago, Fromgotowoewodin said:

I think there’s enough excuses to say we can write that one off. They flogged us in rd2 last year, we got junk goals after the lights came on and made it respectable but they flogged us and in the end we still finished top 4.

Tonight Trac and Oliver had 20 and 18 respectively, that never happens and you wouldn’t think it’ll happen again. 

It didn’t look Melbourne-like at all when we had the ball, rushing, bad decisions, indecision. I think it was an aberration.

But (a big but), does make it hard to have confidence until we prove ourselves again. Need to go 2 out of the next 3 to be a contender I think. 

"Looks like an Adelaide hangover" is the description my neutral supporter friend used mid-way through the second. Three games in 13 days will do that to you I suppose. We just looked flat and tired almost from the very start.

There's obviously a lot to work on but I'm happy to write that one off.

The week off to refresh and reset will do us a world of good.

I certainly wouldn't want to be Richmond on Anzac Eve.

49 minutes ago, The heart beats true said:

There was an incident in the game tonight mid way through the first quarter where it looked, from where I sit, that Zorko stuck his leg out at Petty. It was 80 metres off the ball.

Was this shown on the TV, or been discussed at all anywhere?

Yeah, saw that. Stuck his leg out to kick/trip him as he was running past, then gave him a spray when he turned around to see who did it. 

He was copping it all game, getting the sort of questionable off-ball treatment usually reserved for Max.

Given he was having no influence on the game, is not the sort of player who would be super damaging anyway and the treatment carried on all game regardless, it seemed to me like nothing more than a completely unnecessary attack, which served no purpose other than to try and open old wounds.

Bullying isn't the right word in a sports context, but that's what it looked like. 

All class those Lions.
 

2 minutes ago, In Harmes Way said:

take it to the bank if it came from Dannyz

Thanks!

(and my apologies for questioning then @Dannyz )  

1 minute ago, Dannyz said:

Clarry will play

Positive thinking, or in-the-know fact?

For all our track & Casey watchers, how has he actually been going?

I saw him play live in each of our practise matches, but he looked more like he was finding he feet in those games rather than banging down the door for selection.

Any insight appreciated.

Wasn't it Adrian Anderson who was arguing against us all those years ago for the Trengove sling on Dangerfield?

He gets us both ways  😭