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I've narrowed down the list of suspects. 6 Jordan Lewis 1 Jesse Hogan 11 Max Gawn 9 Charlie Spargo (wouldn’t be able to convince the cashier he’s over 18) 4 James Harmes (couldn’t find the guy standing all alone behind the counter) 12 Dom Tyson (he’d get caught too easily) 14 Michael Hibberd (moustache is a smoking hazard) 15 Billy Stretch (a bit of a stretch, I think) 10 Angus Brayshaw (you’re not allowed to enter 7/11 with a helmet) 18 Jake Melksham (prefers the harder stuff direct to the bloodstream) 23 Bernie Vince (would have been more interested in DeeZee’s daughter) 28 Oscar McDonald (Tomald says he’s not allowed to smoke) 2 Nathan Jones (c) (has the big c next to his name; is always jonesing) 3 Christian Salem (hypothyroidism linked to smoking in numerous studies) 5 Christian Petracca (ducking out behind the sheds explains frequent absence) 7 Jack Viney (c) (Jack Viney’s so tough he eats cigarettes for breakfast) 8 Jake Lever (the only player in the team who can afford a pack nowadays) 13 Clayton Oliver (pale, recent weight loss – clearly has cancer) 16 Dean Kent (released his own popular line of filtered originals) 21 Pedo (‘Hey, kid, you wanna cigarette? Jump in the back of the van') 25 Tom McDonald (out of breath from a punctured lung, huh? Right) 29 Jayden Hunt (there’s only one thing better than a chocolate milk . . .)

Here's a stat. 2018: Round 15 - points against 1173 2017: Round 15 - points against 1236 2016: Round 15 - points against 1328

Fifty seconds of selective footage with the title 'Melbourne's horror workrate exposed!!!" Goodwin needs to be sacked. But not before a Today Tonight expose can bring to light the true evil of the MFC.

Just click I saw some new roof panels to accommodate your OCD stevethenocommasmanjordan.

Ironically one of my favourite Italian dishes is leek pappardelle, you know, like our leeky, sieve-like defense ahahaha.

Exactly. I'm a huge Petracca fan because I really like pasta.

I have no idea what you're intending to convey timbo.

With no left-wing targeting intended, your assessment is fundamentally wrong on a number of levels. The 'indigenous' (including a number of my family-members up North) don't just support indigenous players from any old club. They support their teams, like any supporters, and then perhaps give extra backing to indigenous players within those teams. The MFC is not well supported in Darwin, and the indigenous are also discriminated against in most economic areas - hence not also predominating the attendance at a costly AFL match.

My workmates are all Dutch and I don't think can be blamed for any Demon debacles. More broadly, Arron vandenburg has been a bit of an issue, but I'm fairly certain he's Belgian.

Okay. I stand corrected.

This. Everything else is peripheral. Don't punch people.

The Saints and Collingwood games looked almost identical with the opposition run and overlap. But I don't think it's entirely a matter of poor defensive running to which Goody attributes it publicly. Our effort in our losses has been there, outside of perhaps Hawthorn and some poor spread due partially to crowding the contest. We put a lot of work into pressuring the carrier - with the least kicks recorded against this year. A factor of this is the full commitment by the players to come off their men and move up to the carrier with speed. I support this level of intensity and it's great to watch, but when the opposition slips through it means the final overlap link is achieved higher up the ground with the inside-50 kicker given plenty of space and angles to work with. It's not just a high-zone set-up but a forward-rolling press when the opposition gains possession. When it doesn't come off it gives the appearance of us looking ultra-slow. Extra leg speed probably won't help us here - we're fast enough when we have the ball. My thoughts are that we need to relax this defensive intensity in the wider spaces of the MCG and guard space/forward runners and slow the carrier a little more when the opposition is rolling through the middle from half-back. There will be reduced opportunity to launch a turnover attack from the centre, but on the balance I think we come out on top. Effectively, we're forcing the opposition to move the ball faster, which gives us less time for defensive rearguard action. It's not poor defensive running, but the lack of opportunity to get back in numbers. It also makes the opposition look a million bucks, and in my opinion, gives them extra confidence in their ability to take the game on. It's a minor tweak and doesn't fully undermine our strengths.

This will be semi-derailment of the changes thread, but I don't want to start a new one. Generally, reasonable posters may not be inclined to offer mass changes in the weekly thread, and it always gets a tad confused between prediction and desire. But what do people think is our best team heading into the back half of the year? Paging Werridee.

I can of course understand why people want to sound-off. I'm not immune. But I also manage to deal with it when someone cuts in front of me without indicating without in turn brandishing a shotgun. I also recall you being one of those advocates @Wiseblood, but a few of us have been pegged as feel-good apologists. There is occasionally a rare thread on here where everyone applies their wits and it's an absolute joy - and everyone agrees it's a joy. Until someone brings up our match against Collingwood last year or whatever.

Of course you can do both. People can do whatever they want. I recall a couple years back that several of us were advocating for two match-day threads - one a running commentary of emotion and one a discussion of footy. It didn't fly. Market economy rules.

I also respect Jaded. But I have to say, there are a few armageddon posters on here that make it difficult to have a decent discussion after a loss. I was abused for bringing up a thread about not putting teams to the sword last year - because I was obviously getting ahead of myself. But you would think by the reaction to a couple of losses that everyone on here is accustomed to being in the 8 at this time of the year.

You shouldn't spend so much time defending yourself Nasher. I hate it when every week supporters who come here to dissect a game get crowded out by those who want to vent because they can't control their logic and emotions. And thoughtful discussion seems to enrage them even more. If you're not angry you must be a loser. Okay.

You're Glenn Giles?

For you to make such a personal guarantee either Simon told you himself or you are one of our listed players. And even then, I can't entirely trust that it's not just a matter of you not listening properly to what Goodwin is trying to tell you. We do appear to have some rather stupid players based on the available evidence. And credulous hangers-on.

Goodwin made the most worst selection ever Petty shouldn't have played was thrown to the wolves Goody must be stopped!!!!! Meanwhile, over in the Changes vs. Freo thread . . . We need more speed. IN: Baker

I was of the opinion that Frost played reasonably well once included in 2017. Until Darwin. Where he had a shocker - and faded out for the remainder of the year. Not sure if was the conditions for his poor outing - but I do recall a number of crucial fumbles.

I'm not sure what you're getting at Jumbo. I know nothing about what has occurred other than what Brayshaw has related. Other posters were trying to spin it as if our players are completely in the dark about what they need to do to improve. This is a nasty falsehood. There was however an attitude element of Brayshaw's non-selection that Goodwin didn't address directly. Angus was behaving like a petulant child. I speculated that Goodwin may have felt it better to let Gus come to the conclusion himself that he needed to grow up.

Angus was having a sook about not being selected. Even those at Casey commented on it. Goody may have felt that it was important for Brayshaw's personal development to reflect on why he wasn't being selected and adjust his attitude. Other posters are insinuating that our players are receiving no feedback at all - which is just out and out nonsense as a smear on Goodwin.

It may be absolutely true that you were told something. This doesn't make what you were told absolutely true. However, I haven't been told anything by anyone and still know full well what you've been told is utter nonsense. You can do better than this LH. The frank meeting wasn't a footballing matter - it was an attitude issue. Gus was being a sook. Goodwin may have considered it best for Brayshaw's development to let him figure this out on his own.

Would be the biggest upset of the year if we lost.