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You mean like the CFC logo on the Carlton jumper? Is that amateurish?

I like the rising sun over water S logo but the colour palette means it's lost against the jumper's red background. Their colours are red yellow and blue, they should have made the top half of the sun yellow and the bottom half blue then it would stand out, be consistent with their colours and more clearly communicate the "rising sun" message. On the away jumper they could make the top half of the logo red.

I don't know if Dodson is any good but an apprentice ruckman would be good timing.

Melbourne aren't going to bid on Kako at the pick Essendon traded to us. You can take that to the bank!

Carlton is a very interesting one. They've paid a decent price to trade up to 3, I wonder if that is for someone specific or they were just generally impressed with the quality of the top echelon and wanted to get access. IMO their greatest list need is a class small forward, it seems Kako is the pick but he's unavailable, Joe Berry would probably have been available right around their original first rounder. It's all the more interesting since they got rid of Owies, Martin and Durdin in the trade period. It will be fascination to see who they go for. Maybe @No. 31 can offer some insight?

IIRC Petty was on a scooter at training this time last year

I'll wait and see what Cal Twomey says on Monday night.

Langford would still be there too.

No his pace makes him different.

Apparently his floor is the Bont and his ceiling is Cripps, or is that the other way around 😉

A floor of Parish and a ceiling of Merrett is a good pick-up. We don't have anyone like that.

Master of rhetoric like you would slay them!

The Andrew discussion is relevant with the changes coming to draft points and associated rules next year.

The evidence will be there after this year’s draft with Andrew's unavailability to us book ended by JUH to the Dogs and Kako to Essendon. I nominate you to prosecute our case Red.

I've seen this elsewhere as the reason Carlton take FOS, that has to be the dumbest reason ever put forward for a draft selection.

You're off by a year, Andrew and JVR were in the 2021 draft not the 2020 draft and we traded our F1 from 2022 to get the JVR pick. Maybe we could have held off in the trade period, used our later 2021 picks to match Andrew and then try to trade back into the first round for JVR with our 22 F1 on draft night. But it would have been very tricky. I'm on record saying we got dudded by the temporary rule change and we should be pursuing the AFL for draft compensation. Hell, they should love us, we've kept the game in the news and on the back page of the HS for two off seasons.

JVR wasn't NGA or F/S. If we'd matched on Andrew we wouldn't have been able to draft JVR.

His ranking is not a phantom so why is he being "a coward" not to call it that? I gave you a solid reason why his rankings will have changed.

Should have been the other way around.

Cal will have been talking to pro recruiters ahead of his phantom draft and they will have pointed out the strengths and weaknesses of draftees that may be news to him. That will likely have influenced his rankings. He is always clear that his rankings are separate from his phantom. They're two different things.

I doubt it. If North take Tauru as many have suggested then Richmond will have access to one of the "top 5" open draft mids at 6.

The conventional wisdom is that Adelaide take Draper but Gettable said Adelaide is trying to trade into North's 2 from 4. That must mean they want the same player as Carlton. Maybe that is Draper, but the common view has been that Carlton traded up for O'Sullivan, so maybe it's him. That trade, on draft night, probably looks something like 2 + F2 for 4 + F1 since neither team has many other 2024 draft assets. Whatever, that trade almost certainly signals North takes Tauru as predicted, at 4. The flow on effect of that is we get to choose from 2 of the top 5 mids (excluding Ashcroft) - Draper, Lalor, Langford, O'Sullivan and Smith at pick 5.

Downtrade 9 for 15 and 16 with GWS if the players we really rate at 9 are gone and there's a talent cliff that runs beyond 16 to the next one. Downtrade 9 for 12 and 26 with WC if we believe the player we rate at 9 will still be there at 12. They're both perfectly reasonable strategies. Very keen to hear an argument against them.

It's an opinion business.

Thanks but that'll be news to WC, Richmond, Sydney and even Hawthorn. Chat GPT - close but no cigar!