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Tally ho Pip Pip all good on the good ship Lollypop! Demon for life yeah great!

Viney Limited just check his seasons stats Jones Finished Nev almost the same Max excellent player. Mate heart and soul IS NOT going to deliver a flag, Classy players will Viney signing reeks of yet another "Panic" by our Footy admin that saw us do the same thing to sign Goody for an eternity! No wonder we are so bloody average Viney 5 years FMD

Yep coz he is a Rugby player nothing more or less, Crazy decision for a limited player!

A 5 year deal?? Crazy!!!!

A good mate of mine who played 200 odd games of VFL/AFL made an "Astute" observation to me on the phone the other night. He said he detected a noticeable increase in Clayton Olivers decision making at around the half way part of the season. In essence he believes he made much better decisive decisions to Accelerate out of the packs rather than the obligatory dishoff handball. He believes Clayton Olivers peripheral vision to be as good as ANY in the game and a key factor in his split second footy nous. Now yes I know some of his handballs have been erroneous but the other aspect that my mate suggested is that too many teammates are standing flat footed instead of being as aware as they should be. Interesting stuff! He also said put Oliver in a top 4 side and he stressed top 4 and he said he would become Extremely elite and win a Brownlow!

Yes I do as well, however IMV Oliver's season was much better than Viney's! Here we go Head to Head Clayton Oliver CLEARLY HAD a much better season than Viney !!! CLAYTON OLIVER Season 2020 Totals/Averages GM K HB D M G GA B T HO FF FA CL CG I50 R50 AF * SC * Total 17 195 230 425 57 3 9 1 92 0 22 22 110 69 64 27 1,559 2,078 Average 17 11.5 13.5 25.0 3.4 0.2 0.5 0.1 5.4 0 1.3 1.3 6.5 4.1 3.8 1.6 91.7 122.2 * AFL Fantasy (AF) and Supercoach (SC) stats only include regular season. 2020 Statistical Rankings ● Ranked 15th in Total Inside 50s ● Ranked 5th in Total Handballs ● Ranked 6th in Total Disposals ● Ranked 5th in Total Tackles ● Ranked 5th in Total Supercoach Score ● Ranked 7th in Total AFL Fantasy Score ● Ranked 1st in Total Contested Possessions ● Ranked 7th in Total Effective Disposals ● Ranked 2nd in Total Clangers ● Ranked 1st in Total Clearances ● Ranked 6th in Total Centre Clearances ● Ranked 1st in Total Stoppage Clearances ● Ranked 13th in Total Turnovers ● Ranked 6th in Handballs Per Game ● Ranked 9th in Disposals Per Game ● Ranked 8th in Tackles Per Game ● Ranked 3rd in Supercoach Score Per Game ● Ranked 6th in AFL Fantasy Score Per Game ● Ranked 2nd in Contested Possessions Per Game ● Ranked 9th in Effective Disposals Per Game ● Ranked 6th in Clangers Per Game ● Ranked 1st in Clearances Per Game ● Ranked 6th in Centre Clearances Per Game ● Ranked 2nd in Stoppage Clearances Per Game ● Ranked 18th in Turnovers Per Game Season Highlights ● 31 disps (17 kicks 14 hballs), 3 marks, 5 tackles and a goal in Rd 11 57-pt win over North Melbourne at Adelaide Oval (9 Aug 2020) ● 34 disps (17 kicks 17 hballs), 5 marks, 6 tackles and a goal in Rd 10 51-pt win over Adelaide at Adelaide Oval (5 Aug 2020) ● 28 disps (12 kicks 16 hballs), 5 marks and 10 tackles in Rd 8 4-pt loss to Brisbane at Metricon Stadium (26 Jul 2020) ● 29 disps (16 kicks 13 hballs), 6 marks and 6 tackles in Rd 7 43-pt win over Hawthorn at GIANTS Stadium (19 Jul 2020) ● 28 disps (12 kicks 16 hballs), 5 marks and 5 tackles in Rd 2 1-pt win over Carlton at Marvel Stadium (13 Jun 2020) JACK VINEY Season 2020 Totals/Averages GM K HB D M G GA B T HO FF FA CL CG I50 R50 AF * SC * Total 16 166 152 318 40 5 10 4 67 0 28 15 82 55 68 13 1,207 1,593 Average 16 10.4 9.5 19.9 2.5 0.3 0.6 0.2 4.2 0 1.8 0.9 5.1 3.4 4.2 0.8 75.4 99.6 * AFL Fantasy (AF) and Supercoach (SC) stats only include regular season. 2020 Statistical Rankings ● Ranked 13th in Total Inside 50s ● Ranked 16th in Total Contested Possessions ● Ranked 13th in Total Clangers ● Ranked 15th in Total Clearances ● Ranked 9th in Total Centre Clearances ● Ranked 20th in Total Stoppage Clearances ● Ranked 8th in Total Turnovers ● Ranked 8th in Inside 50s Per Game ● Ranked 11th in Contested Possessions Per Game ● Ranked 12th in Clearances Per Game ● Ranked 13th in Centre Clearances Per Game ● Ranked 20th in Stoppage Clearances Per Game ● Ranked 2nd in Turnovers Per Game Season Highlights ● 27 disps (14 kicks 13 hballs) and 5 tackles in Rd 16 14-pt loss to Fremantle at Cazaly's Stadium (7 Sep 2020) ● 34 disps (14 kicks 20 hballs), 5 marks, 6 tackles and a goal in Rd 1 27-pt loss to West Coast at Optus Stadium (22 Mar 2020)

Well there you have it, clearly our coaches are clueless! How clueless might be played out in this review which might see several on the outer!!

Has PACE, Classy ball user, and Skill. We lack all three. GET THIS DEAL DONE!!

Clayton Oliver had a far far better year than Jack Viney. How Viney finished in front of Oliver is fantasyland stuff.

Thats overs!! just leave out pick 62 and would do this in a heartbeat!

Dan Andrews would be my guess!!

I prefer Jeff Kennett myself!!

Exactly my thoughts on the same game! Get him in !!

GOOD! Does that mean Goodwin is under review??

Yes thanks for the correction 3 out of 4 seasons?? Shheeeeit his price just went up!

Passed away tragically and unexpectedly. He would have been 65 Today. For those who haven't seen it I posted my Ode to a great player and even better Bloke 6 years ago !! RIP Mate PF Rob loved days like today. He probably would have thought it a tad hot for footy, but would have played and dominated, anyway. His greatest pastime on days like to day would be cooking a BBQ for family and friends, playing golf, or on his boat catching a few "Flatties" and maybe the odd "Snapper" in Port Phillip bay, or just shooting the breeze on his sundeck at Sorrento. Rob was at his happiest when you were happy, it seemed as if by some magical formula he had the "knack" of making you feel as if you were the most important person at that moment he was speaking to you. He loved his family and he loved and valued his friends! Charismatic people have this gift. Some use it for gain, and power, Rob used his charisma because he was genuinely interested in you and your family. Yes Rob was a "Superstar" footballer Bernie Quinlan so rightly said yesterday. But Above and Beyond he was a "Mega Superstar" person! Is this not a better, more substantially satisfying legacy to leave?In private life he was a generous with his time and expertise, as he appeared in public life. I have seen and been lucky enough to witness the way he gently and compassionately met people who at the conclusion of an interaction walked away much happier for the experience. Floating on air is as real as an experience I have seen and been a part of, and just as euphoric! Just ask any who met him and knew him. I count myself extremely lucky and enriched by knowing him as a friend and mentor! The Euphoria stayed with you and lingered on and on. Over the 35 odd years I have known the man, I have been extremely fortunate to have been welcomed into part of the fabric of his life. He had many "Brothers" in arms and his own two brothers, Tom and Jim must have thought that they had won tattslotto every day of their lives having him as a brother. I can tell you he felt the same way about them! A more gentle, humble, empathic, generous, self effacing, humorous, genuine person you could not find than Rob Flower. I was at his funeral yesterday, and I will be at his public funeral tomorrow. Each time I look up at the sky on a clear night I will seek out the brightest star. If all stars represent great people, then Rob's star will surely be the brightest! With more people like Rob Flower in the world, it would be a more sensational place to be! Vale Rob Flower, a shining light in my life, never forgotten, always remembered "No Regrets" Thanks mate

Ah you sure?? Can I just ask a question???? Re " Not sure we can change the game plan to suit. " Are you sure our CURRENT GAME PLAN IS ANY GOOD?? I think it shambolic!!! We need to get 2 things A A coach who can coach B Players who deliver better than they have been coached to do! Who is the last player we have had to kick 60 plus goals in 2 out of 3 seasons???? We need EXACTLY this type of player and get our game style right and COACH players to a much better standard than has been in the last million years!! GO GET BEN BROWN!

Who SHOULD be played FORWARD. Until he is given a fair go up Forward.... lets reserve judgement re "Whipping Boy" just yet!

Good!! Next??

How pizx weak are Dalhus and Rohan when real pressure is on so Soft! Abwtt looks overweight! Gawd I hate Gerlong?

To get back to the thread. I would love to see Polec on the opposite wing to Langdon, bot not dissimilar players and would solve a glaring outside run issue!

Thanks IMV Just another player development that has not occured. I still maintain that SMITH is a Forward.

Yeah well the club seems incapable of making the so called "Ruthless" decisions it claims! I would advocate a Norf style cleanout. I could name about 10 who just should not be on the list next year!

Agree with you and as Dazzle has pointed out 7th May not be a super result from a bottom 4 team but given he never got anywhere near that at Melbourne it does display some development. On that basis he is still , as you say a massive upgrade on Oscar!

In my view this result vindicates the "Blunder" of letting him go when we did. I saw enough of him in HAWKS games to say that his "Percieved" deficiencies have been eradicated to a greater degree and he played some good solid football. Its interesting to see what coaches that know how to get the best out of players do so. I reckon though, that Sam Frost will continue to improve not dissimilar to Bachar Houli when he went from Essendon to Richmond. If that happens then the blunder in letting him go will be even more pronounced and damning. I Was disappointed to see him leave Melbourne and even more so now!