Hopeful Demon

Not to mention that Geelong were a powerhouse side that ended up winning flag while the Saints are currently a bottom five side.

The irony is that Goodwin was in charge in 2018 when we were the most attacking side in the comp. The introduction of the 6-6-6 rule made him ultra defensive as he could no longer use tactics like having two players running from the back of the square.

I know that people often like to point out that we finished in the top 4 in 2022/23 but I'm of the view that we actually didn't. In my perspective we finished 5th in 2022 and 6th in 2023. A real top 4 finish for me is making a preliminary final at the bare minimum. It shouldn't be about how flags are hard to win, it's about how we haven't won a single final since 2021 and are now back with the bottom of the pack. I get that we had things go against us (especially injuries) but we also had more than enough opportunities to put our opposition away, especially Brisbane in the 2022 SF and Carlton in the 2023 SF. That's why I look back at 2018 much more fondly than 2022/23. We won two finals in front of jam-packed MCG crowds and played a much more exciting, attacking brand of football.

Yep some of the mental gymnastics that people are doing on here are insane

He's made a litany of bad decisions since the flag. Last Sunday alone he used Spargo as the sub, played Petty up forward and put our two most dangerous forwards in Melksham and Pickett on the bench in the last quarter. And who could forget that Schache debacle in the 2023 SF against Carlton. That was one of the most bizarre and bewildering coaching decisions I've ever seen. Yes, our players should take a large portion of the blame but so should the coach. Those two things aren't as mutually exclusive as you think they are.

Stop living in the past mate. 2021 has absolutely zero relevance to anything that's going on right now. I'm sure it would have looked pretty [censored] stupid if West Coast supporters were using the 2018 flag in 2022 as evidence that Simpson should stay.

You really are the most bizarre poster I've ever seen

Threatening someone because of a [censored] football game is absolutely sad and pathetic. Sucks that both he and Voss have had to deal with this.

Yep a real top 4 finish is making a preliminary final at minimum

Or the fact that we won a flag in 2021 and finished top 4 in 2022/23 (even though we technically didn't) as if any of those have any relevance to what's going on now

Oh come on there were numerous pathetic coaching decisions today. Using Spargo as the sub, playing Petty in the forwardline when it was clearly a lost cause, and putting Melksham and Pickett on the bench in the last quarter. Of course this loss is on Goodwin. Get your head out of the sand.

Thanks for the flag Goody but you are well and truly finished

That last quarter was the most pathetic, weak, pea-hearted and insipid display I've ever seen. I don't think I've ever been as embarrassed by this club as I am right now. How they managed to [censored] that one up is beyond me.

Imagine the outroar if we manage to lose this. Seriously.

We refuse to be a normal team

Ffs Melbourne wake up. They always do this

With Xerri suspended he doesn't really have anyone challenging him for AA. Grundy is probably the closest but there's no way he's been as good as Gawn this year.

Gawn always shows Marshall who's boss when they play against each other

Higgins has got such a punchable face

God I love Melksham

That was a good half but it's so [censored] infuriating the way we always give the opposition a couple of red time goals. It does my head in.

It was nice seeing Fritsch turn back the clock like that

Safe to say you got what you wanted lol

It's absurd that we lost to that [censored] rabble

If we had things Bluey's way Sam Weideman would be captain by now. He seems to be the only MFC player he's ever actually liked lol.