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Max should look at Draper's routine from Essendon. It would work for him far better than what he does currently. Explore different techniques and find a something that works for each individual. I learnt to drop the ball in under 12's with a great coach who made every one of us kick further and get our ball drops right. For the ball drop we were dropping the balls into buckets, perfect for drop punts. Then for kicking further we had a line where we would kick the ball from and another one half a metre or so further past that. It taught us to jump through that line and we all improved both distance and accuracy. Drives me crazy most of our players do not get their ball drop right, or kick actually through the ball. It is pretty basic stuff that would make many of them far better field kicks and also kicking for goal. Too many lean back and the ball goes anywhere.

Great idea. Specsavers would surely tip in as sponsors for such an initiative.

Hmm on Fritta, I thought was our best player in that 1st quarter, barely saw him do anything in the next 3 though, even though the ball was in our f 50 plenty enough to impact in some way. On this year I think I would be trading him. His effort is so sporadic. Effort to me is a non negotiable. He has the talent. Petty should be on the best intercept defender and told to stop him, would go long way to stop the easy rebounds, and as we all know he can defend quite well. Offence will come off the back of that.

You could see the warning signs early vs St Kilda. Reminded me of similar issues when we are playing badly, a complete lack of focus in a bunch of areas that are important.( if you want to win games of footy). We went back to guarding grass, all running backwards to try and stop the Saints on transition, no pressure on the ball carrier, defenders giving opponents 5-10 metres of latitude and the result was expected. I thought Goodwin had turned a corner with actually tagging players, it stopped Viney and then Oliver being headless chickens that just see ball, get ball and actually have a more refined focus. It interrupted the opposition team and gave us better structure. Did he not respect the opposition to go away from this? Same with our forwards, Melksham and Petty seemed to play far better interrupting the oppos intercept defenders. Seems crazy we go away from what was working, negating opponents strengths. Then you have Sinclair and Wanganeen Milera, clearly their best players that were given free reign all day. Odd tactics if you ask me. Did we just not respect the Saints and figured we would win on talent alone? It seems when we play better opposition's we have a firm plan, against lesser ones though I really feel the game plan goes out the window. Respect every opponent, every team has good players that are integral to their system. Another issue that seems to resurface when we are off is that we have a heap of bees at the honeypot. We give opponents the outside and they invariably punish us for it. I see these issues as even more important than rectifying our wayward goal kicking. That should be worked on every training session, especially our designated forwards.

Actually noticed he was lot further up the ground for most of game. My guess would be as last line of defence he was struggling if the ball hit the deck. Being further up the ground it is not so catastrophic if he fumbles a ground ball. Personally i think he has been pretty out of form the last few weeks and actually struggling to bend over and pick up the ball. Also he has more opportunities to use his reasonably good foot skills to better effect having more options through half back and middle of the ground. As great as both Lever and May have been in last line of defence, i think both are a little flaky if they do not mark or spoil it out of bounds. Bowey/Mcvee/Tomlinson/Rivers...even our wings are probably more suited to that last line for us these days.

Read your inbox. I know you don't like to hear ANYTHING negative about our players or coaches or anything MFC. I will not be posting on this forum for some time so that is one less person you going to have to ignore. Believe it or not... was just posting what i thought even though it might have been horribly slanted towards the negative. It was not written to hurt yours or other peoples feelings, and for others to jump down my throat because they simply disagree or don't like the manner in which i attacked a coach of the precious MFC we all love. I get it, i defend our players and coaches too when i feel they are getting attacked, especially if it is not warranted or ignorant. ANyway, not sure why i even bothered to respond...i am out.

Tomlinson was actually dropped after Collingwood game. You are saying i am off the mark and lack footy knowledge is simply not true, Last 2 weeks we been dominated by the best intercepting defender...Stewart then Haynes. Earlier in the year it was no accident that Petty was playing lock down roles on these type guys, and although we were not getting high value goal output. It was stopping the intercept mark and rebounds being allowed to start freely. Not at all what i was suggesting. Petty forward/Tomlinson back.

Ok. My deal is i live for football, i am no less passionate about it than you and spend much of my days talking about my beloved football club. Because i say anything disparaging about the coaches or the players for that matter, is becuase i am passionate and i care too much if anything. If we loved and supported our team all in the same manner it would be a pretty boring forum fwiw. Your comments show maybe you care too much also. I am not here to start drama. Most of the time i am just typing what i think or feel, much less eloquently than others. To say that the Demons don't need passionate supporters like me who actually walks around in Melbourne gear most of my days is really insulting, just because i don't share your exact views. Put me on ignore, if that is what you need to do. Sorry my posts upset you.

Neither of them have been in good form, so my answer would be no they probably saw it coming. Tomlinson on the other hand would have been utterly shocked after one of his best performances in red and blue. We have not won since he was dropped. i will ask you a question in all seriousness...Do you think Spargo has done anything to get back into the team? Or BB/Harmes/Melksham over Tomlinson for their form?

Maybe if his coach was professional, it would be recipricated. You have one of your best days/weeks at work and then told to go have a rest for 3-4 weeks as you are virtually redundant now....Suck it up buttercup!

JVR was actually having more success at halving contests...as was Petty. How many marks do you think BB will take the way we deliver the ball? You are correct in saying he can't pick it up. It is like we are hoping BB is the answer to our forward woes, when the method is the thing that is broken. Shifting personnel is not going to change much result-wise.

I can imagine.. IS shocked with Goodwin/coaches getting dropped after Collingwood game. Gets left out vs Geelong and replaced by an underdone Petty. He played reserves and was one of our best. Then gets taken to Darwin and can't get a spot over Melksham/Harmes/BB. Would be furious if in his shoes. To think that Goodwin does not have/and play faves is ludicrous.

Close this thread seriously. We have another 3 threads talking about this matter incessantly. He is out for 3-4 weeks, get over it. Clearly was managed well.

Yeah, what do you think he has said to Tomlinson for last 3 weeks.....The FD deserves no levels of trust when they clearly select favourites over fringe players who actually are in superior form. Goodwin has utterly lost the plot. Brings and out of form Charlie Spargo in...Here is an idea Goody put him wing lol. Ridic selection that will not help us. BB kicks 3 goals and gets an instant recall. He is not a competitor we need. He does not bring the ball to ground and is useless once it hits it....None of our style hits up leading talls what is the point of selecting a big floppy bloke that can't hold his ground. Melksham? Give me a break. I said before the year started if we are still playing guys like Melksham/Hibberd we are actually going nowhere fast. Neither are the future and we got many more talented players under them that SHOULD be getting games into imo. Dropping Harmes for JJ is the only thing he got right in another week of selection blunders. We will be super lucky to beat St Kilda. We actually need a new coach, i think SImon is going to find ways to bring us back to the pack...We are only going to have to put up with dodgy selections/favourites/dodgy gameplan for another 5 years or so until they work out he actually was the problem all along. Lots of faith in the players....Zero in our coaching staff atm, with good reason.