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My guess would be in that scenario MFC would not have wanted it getting out that Jackson was open/looking for a trade before Cerra had decided who he would nominate. Cerra and his agent ruled us out because they couldn't see how we would get the deal done, which is always a bit of a nightmare for agents and player (see above comments re Bobby Hill). Look, I'll cop the blame for maybe not explaining it clearly enough, maybe because I understood what I was saying I thought others would automatically get it (standing aside the usual posters who like to have a crack no matter what), but given our lack of attractive picks, our lack of attractive future picks, and no obvious link with other players who would attract decent trade value, I don't see why people seem so upset that it made me worried Jackson could be linked. I get it that others may not agree with my way of thinking about it, but honestly, the personal attacks and screaming down has been over the top. (Not directed at you obviously).

What do you think we planned on trading to get Cerra then?

I'm not the one who has kept it going. Demonland, clearly, isn't just for facts.

It's been explained now, so that's not my problem anymore mate. Because from what we can tell, the trade was shutdown by Cerra and his agent as they couldn't see how MFC could get the deal done. Would be too much of a risk for them not getting a deal done and Cerra having to stay (which if you've watched the series is a pretty devastating outcome for Bobby Hill). The agents are way more involved in facilitating trades it seems judging by the doco. I agree Jackson would be worth more than Cerra. As I mention above, perhaps Jackson wasn't in a panic go get out in 2021. This is 100% just a thought, an idea, not sure how much more I can clarify that before certain posters start getting 'upset'.

Shock horror, someone is giving their opinions on a footy board. Thoughts and prayers. Put me on ignore champ.

Not sure how you fail to see it tbh. Jackson is yet to re-sign and is from WA, it's not rare for players to request trades home. We were going after a WA player with seemingly no way to get the deal done with draft picks and with Jackson as the only immediately obvious currency. Personally, I don't think Dogga has fully made up his mind about going home or staying in Melbourne, which I think is why he hasn't re-signed yet. Absolutely no chance we put him on the table as far as the club instigating it if that's what you're suggesting? If, and I repeat IF, Dogga had said to the club 'I would like to go home, but there's no rush to get it done this year (2021) if you can't get a good deal' then to my mind that would make sense of both situations: 1) Going hard for the Cerra trade 2) Jackson not re-signing yet. I hope he signs, and gut feel is he's more likely to than not.

Good one mate. My point was we were going pretty hard for a WA player when seemingly our only trade currency was Jackson. Obviously there may have been other plans on how to get it done, but with all the talk about him and him yet to re-sign it's just a little worry for now until he puts pen to paper.

I reckon Jason Taylor would have been remembering the similar highlight he showed the coaches when talking about him pre-draft that Goody and Richo both loved.

Oh good, you're still stalking me. Perhaps you can read the bits where I said "makes ME a tiny bit worried" and then "but hopefully"... Pretty clearly that's me giving my own thoughts on that and not attributing it as a quote by anyone. I appreciate your concern about my own internal thought process, but I'm not sure you need to be continually posting about it on the internet. You seem to often be upset by what I post, so might I suggest for the sake of your mental health you just put me on ignore. Have a ripper day Ethan Tremblay.

I'm more than happy to apologize if my post was misleading, but I've read it back numerous times and not been able to draw the same conclusion as you. Can you quote the part where I said a player agent said Jackson would be traded? I'll absolutely concede my mistake should you point it out, so instead of going for personal attacks maybe show me where I went wrong.

Nowhere did I infer an agent said the club was prepared to trade Jackson. Quite the opposite if you read the post properly. I said the Dees went really hard at winning over Cerra despite seemingly not having any trade currency other than Jackson and that worried me a little bit. If you read my post properly you'll see the only thing I said re agents was that they thought Melbourne had no way to get the deal done. Perhaps try reading the post again.

That's me giving my own thoughts, that's not paraphrasing, and I hardly think a random posters thoughts on a footy board are "dangerous".

Right, so what part of my paraphrasing is incorrect?

Nowhere did I say anyone said Jackson was going.

The Pope said it was ok though... Also, no COVD vaccine contains human fetal material.

Yeah thought about the future picks, but the agents are all over who has what draft picks, future picks etc so they would have known what we were capable of doing in that space. TBH I more took out of it the positives with the presentation, it was a similar story with Dunstan too, in both of them MFC rocked up with Goody, Yze, Tim Lamb and Richo, definitely showing how much they care.

Watching "Show Me The Money" and they've covered MFC doing the "best presentation I've ever seen" (Robbie D'orazio) to Cerra. Not explicitly said, but insinuated a fair few times that they only didn't pick Melbourne because they thought they wouldn't be able to get the deal done. Dees basically said 'don't worry about that' in regards to how they'd get the deal done, which makes me a tiny bit worried about Jackson, but hopefully the agents not thinking Melbourne could get the deal done means Dogga indicated he wanted to stay.

Could have also gone with any of the following... "Full forward takes on the full vax" "Just this once, blokes rapt Darl changes mind" "Jack's vax backtrack wacks fullbacks, racks back stacks to tax" "Eagle's needles" I'll see myself out...

If you don't know for sure, you shouldn't even bring it up (not that it would be appropriate either way mind you).

Making accusations of drug taking about someone who has just passed away and then backing it up with 'oh but I don't know if it's even true' IS appalling in my books. Other factual posts about health issues were deleted in regards to hypothesizing about Warne's untimely demise, yet this kind of gutter rumour mongering is allowed to stay up. That's very poor.

Bizarre that reasonable posts about potential health problems were deleted but this appalling stuff is left up.

This is only short (and trigger warning for the posters that need it - It quickly covers a couple of those famous losses), but really well done and has a few new insights. https://www.afl.com.au/ondemand/stories/491019/season-final-story?episode=9&fbclid=IwAR1-44biAI8uOmjGELIxDvt48RQjerk_EgydgILoiKcGWkXKKNeb6vfGozg#season-1

Not sure they'll be moving Gosch's after doing all the work on it, so can probs cross that part off. Also, not sure which off ramp you mean, but assuming the one coming off the SE Fwy onto Punt Rd? If so, I don't think it could be straightened given it involves being in the left lane and exiting to the right. What's the 'indoor hall'?

Weird, it doesn't say "Kozzy's last 5 games"...