Lord Nev

'Pure scoring' sure, but you know there's more nuance to it than that, and the lack of pressure and the ease of rebound 50s is causing us to still lose games despite our score being reasonably high. Improve the forward 50 efficiency and we improve those things by having more marks, allowing us to setup behind the ball, and have more goals, allowing us to use our centre clearance strengths.

Rubbish. He suited it perfectly fine when we won a flag. What have we completely changed about our game style this year that suddenly now renders him obsolete? Do you think our game style this year is humming along perfectly? No tweaks needed? Reckon Goody talking about 'forward connection' is just to get his face in the paper? Nonsensical to suggest getting rid of him when his strength is what we desperately need.

Silly to judge a player on one piece of play. We can get him the ball more by getting rid of the habit we have of blasting over half forward. Start using players like Spargo, Harmes, ANB, Langdon etc around half forward and utilizing more directed short kicks. Spargo isn't a 'crumbing forward', and he's not an inside mid, so it's not just his job to go and win clearances. One of the main factors in our skill issues this year is bypassing our outside players IMO.

I'm not advocating for Weid to come in, I'm just saying our efficiency is currently poor, we pretty much blast over CHF so don't think it matter who's there atm, and our forward line is not working that well currently - Our inside 50 efficiency is terrible and we're 18th for opponent rebound 50s.

Anything further to this @binman? You've been quite vocal about other posters who questioned fitness staff. Doesn't seem like anything is coming out about this so far. Can you back it up?

Just on this - Spargo is the number 1 player in the AFL for kicks retained inside 50, and is MILES ahead of any other Demon. If you want to improve our scoring efficiency get him the ball more rather than drop him.

Worked ok last year... Would that matter at all with how we go forward? Not sure I agree with this. Our inside 50 efficiency seems pretty poor atm. Milkshake saved us last night by playing one out of the box, but I wouldn't be relying on that happening every week.

Not officially confirmed, but COVID I believe.

I really like him as a player. No nonsense, tackles well, and never seen a game where he hasn't given 100%. Just not loving him on the wing right now. Not sure what his best role is though tbh, he's great as a utility though so you'd find a role for him somewhere.

Yeah, absolutely no argument he needs to lift. I just think when you're a team that's terrible going inside 50 you have to find a way to get it to him more to help that rather than drop him from the team.

Goes at 46% kicks retained inside 50. Our next best is something like 19%.

Yep. I like JJ, but I don't like him on the wing. Too slow for the pressure and there and ends up with just no look kicks (when he manages to actually get it away). 4 tutnovers, 3 clangers and only 177 metres gained is poor from a winger when we're going down his side of the ground a lot of the game. Poor from a pressure point of view as well, not because he doesn't try but just purely because his lack of speed isn't made up for enough by his reading of the play. I think we need to tip the balance of run and speed more and bring in Harmes for JJ. Personally I'd get Gus back on the wing, that's where he plays his best footy within the context of team performance (also he's averaging nearly 8 turnovers a game since going into the midfield). Agree on a second tall forward and Bowey, I'm keen on both, but can't see Goody doing it at this stage. ANB and Spargo both struggling for form, no argument there. But ANB is the best pressure player in a team struggling to get their pressure up this year, Spargo is (by a loooooong way) the best user going inside 50 in a team struggling with their inside 50s. Despite their dips in form I don't think either will even be considered for being dropped.

Sounds violent... You must be strong though.

OUT - Jordon IN - Harmes Really need a second tall forward IMO, but can't see Goody doing it.

Don't worry everybody, we're still 6 weeks away from being good apparently. No panic.

Gus' turnovers tonight... Geez

Where was Langdon most of that quarter?

Saad definitely looks sore - maybe ribs or something.

Brown's had 1 handball, 0 kicks, 0 marks. If that was Weid his thread would have another 8 pages by now.

Harmes the sub

Cerra a late out for the Blues.

Just a compilation of rumours and Demonland posts... Kozzy may miss with a sore knee. Chandler and Bedford have COVID. Some discussion whether the excited little crowd of players was excited enough to indicate a Laurie debut. Then it gets intriguing because if Kozzy was to miss Laurie seems a better replacement than Harmes, but should it be Harmes then you wouldn't think we'd debut Laurie (or JVR) as sub... Which then leaves Tommo as likely sub. It's a bit like an episode of Bold and the Beautiful this week...

Yeah, was more referring to where someone said they had the group cheer in the middle similar to when it's announced someone will debut.