Lord Nev

Yep, could potentially even be 38 + 6. We currently have 35 senior players and 4 rookies, so given our draft situation it could very well be a senior list of 38.

We can still sign more rookies if we wish I'm pretty sure, so we don't need to upgrade a rookie to add another one.

Not necessarily. With the way the list numbers work now (long story short) we can add anywhere from 3-5 senior players to our list as it currently stands.

He only had the final one a month ago. Would assume they've got the medical scans of the difference post-surgery, but being that recent I guess the rehab hasn't got to the point of running just yet.

Delisted by the Bombers today. Feels like we're 1 mature tall short on our list atm, but not sure if this bloke is the answer. Just putting it out there for discussion. Bombers make one more list change with versatile tall cut

I'd actually be pretty rapt with your scenario too btw. Be interesting to see what happens with Bennell, gut feel is that due to the amount of interest he will get a senior list spot somewhere rather than a rookie spot.

Not sure that's 100% accurate. From what I can gather, this is the list situation: AFL LIST SIZE 38 - 40 senior listed players 4 - 6 rookies Up to 3 cat B rookies Maximum total list size of 47 players CURRENT DEES LIST 35 Senior Listed Players 4 Rookies 1 Cat B Rookie TOTAL = 40 This means we will be adding between 3-5 senior players, with rookie numbers depending on that final number. Still means we'd likely be looking at delisted free agents or the PSD, but if my information is correct, it means 5 is the absolute maximum we can add to our list as far as senior players go.

Sounds fantastic, let's hope only 3 other teams are aiming for top 4 as well then!

Rumour only, and not from someone I know very well, but has been said that we started talking to him in July.

Technical question for anyone that happens to know, but I seem to remember Burgess was listed as starting in November. I know he's already done some things like giving out programs for the players on break, but is he on hand to oversee the Bennell physical?

Officially delisted by the Pies today.

Hore, Chandler, Lockhart and Corey Wagner would be my current options to try. Actually think Corey could do it well. Has fantastic effort, intensity and pressure, along with the willingness to be physical. Reminds me a lot of Nev when he made the switch in positions too.

Fair enough mate, can definitely see what you're saying there. I wasn't sure at first for the same reasons and have probably just been swayed given our current lack of tall depth.

Was named AA this year, so not sure I agree he will never be a dominant ruckman. BTW he's 199cm and at 18 could quite possibly still grow a little, if that's a big concern. I agree about not using pick 3, but pick 8 shapes as a big chance IMO. Just strikes me as a bit of a bolter who is on a quick track of improvement, bit like Oliver in his draft year.

I still have hope for Weids. Think he has some good attributes and works hard. Needs a mixture of luck (mostly with injury), confidence and better delivery and he'll start to turn the corner IMO. Was always seen as a longer term prospect. Preuss is just backup. We needed that, and we lost a player who was not worth a lot to us to get him, so a sensible decision IMO.

“Maybe they see the value of a really great ruckman and he probably starts his career as a forward,” Twomey said. “I spoke to a recruiter last week who said he goes in as a forward and would be a better player than Sam Weideman straight away.” The surprising player in the mix for the Demons at pick three

Not sure where to start with all this tbh. No reason to take him at pick 3 if he's likely available at our next pick. Bizarre comment. The draft is for talent, it's selected in that order. Appreciate your in-depth analysis of watching his highlights, but better footy minds than yours (and mine) made the suggestion he could play round 1.

Club is very keen on Jackson. Word is he could very well lineup as a forward in round 1 should we land him. Not sure if it's part of a pick split plan or not, but this is a very very real possibility.

Oh yeah, look not having a crack at Viney, he's one of my favourite players on and off, more just talking about areas we need help with as far as leadership goes and weaknesses (IMO) that I'd love to see him improve upon. FWIW I think Viney will still be a co-captain next year, along with Gawn, and I hope we improve the support for him with more 'directional' type leaders and Jack himself starts to work on that area.

Champion Data had a very detailed and contextualized stat about effective kicks inside 50, Viney was rated as the worst in the league. Disposal efficiency is a very poor stat that has very little context around it and technically you can have a turnover count as an "effective disposal" in certain circumstances. Sure, we can't hear what he says, but being at games you can see that he doesn't talk to other players very much, and I've rarely seen him giving direction on the field. Just my opinion, but "bleeding for the club" is close to last on the list as far as our leadership needs go.

For mine, directing players and showing what we should be doing are the first things we need in a captain. Bleeding for the club doesn't improve our delivery inside 50, turnovers or spread. Great that he's doing a Beamer in the offseason, but I'll be more happy when he starts to communicate well on the field and stops being the worst user inside 50 in the comp.

Could also be why the coaching department has shrunk somewhat. Adding Brukner, Burgess and Richardson might have meant a tighter squeeze in the 'soft cap'.

Maybe, or maybe our trades, delistings, draft picks etc etc were influenced by not getting Elliot.