Gawndy the Great

Agreed. We need the bottom 6-8 players to improve. There is no doubt we have top end talent across the board. Jacko, Kozzie, Rivers, Lockhart, Tomlinson, Melksham, Brayshaw, Weid ... all have upside.. its time they cashed in. If these guys can all take it up a notch and our premium players remain at the level consistently, we will have a chance at being top 4.

Still racking my brain as to why he doesn’t get a tag.

Im sure someone on here can correct me if im wrong, but it is about time we got a steel 'gun' player (ala Tim Kelly) from the 2nd round. I agree with this. Give him one more year in Half Back to develop the reading and flow of the game. THen decide on whether he stays there or develops an engine to rotate on the wing / midfield.

I see no problems with what he has said at all. In fact I applaud his honesty and his commitment to the team. The fact that he doesn’t want to leave and hold his coach out to dry says a lot about his character.

Wouldn't jump up and down about this too much. This could be us next year if we don't make the 8.

Seriously how the Lions can afford this guy is beyond me. The Lions are already paying Neale, Andrews, Zorko, McCluggage, Lyons, Cameron close to 500K or more.

Im wondering the exact same thing. When Kelly goes on the market next year, dont surprised with a Blues 5 year 1M dollar offer.

Great news. Surely though Jack should have signed first and lead from the front.

We were in 2018. Problem back then (and still now) was consitancy in its application. But with the new game plan, that ferocious nature has all but disappeared.

I do rate Smith, but i sense that Hawks will hold onto him.

What does that make OMac? an non athlete with NFI? Im not saying Frost is to be considered for the Brownlow but as a 2nd or 3rd tall, fits our list profile so much better than anyone else.

I do suppose having Tomlinson can be considered an upgrade, given his better use of the footy, but we loose out massively on agility and having Tomo play on the wing.

I will maintain that letting Frost go, ahead of OMac was a massive oversight that i still cannot understand. Yes he was a turnover king, but so were half the team. The only reason we noticed him more is that half back turnovers whilst in transition usually result in scores against. He is a very good lockdown defender, with great closing speed and can play big and tall. Granted he has average to below average disposal efficiency but compared against Omac will beat him in almost every skill attribute.

Why would we sign him on a one year deal unless it was at Burgo’s own request. Hopefully the AFL clarifies soft cap and list sizes soon so that we can prepare for the trade period. This uncertainty is not doing anyone any favours.

I think it pretty much went out the door once 6-6-6 came in and Goodwin changed our frenetic - chaos style - game plan. As many have stated, its ball movement and spread that creates speed not the players.

AFL should not give him a license. They are obligated to seek medical advice that would most certainly not allow him to play.

May out of this side is a massive blunder. albeit having 3 AAs for non finals teams is a not a good look. Ling needs to be pulled off the selection panel. Geelong are always over represented and Danger gets a free ride. Guthrie on the wing. Seriously?

His wife is back in Melbourne.

I know I’m getting ahead of myself but Steven May for captain 2021 please!

It was always going to be difficult to get him. He'd be one of their marquee players that they would do anything to hold onto.

Funny isn’t that what Goodwin said our brand was supposed to be.

Is #FreeKickHawthorn officially retired?

Assuming he leaves and we can make a deal with Essendon.

Saad would have some sort of relationship with Steven May right?

Yes frustrating but certainly not trade worthy. He has a great kicking technique. Problem is between his ears. Nevertheless he has to be a forward of centre link player. Great marking and field kicking. Even would be worth trialling one the wing.