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Sarc does not convert well on the line PS : way too long. I blame my cheer squad member mate who turned me off the Bombers in grade 3. Although when the Dees came up and played Macedon in the 80s (can't remember when) and Robbie Flower kicked a goal that then concussed my best mate Mark O'S and knocked him out cold (the image of him being carried I think by Robbie F or his dad, can't remember is burned into my memory), I should have taken that as a sign to run 100 miles an hour opposite direction from the team.

You have it all wrong. You just need to have a more positive mental attitude. It'll help heaps and that.

Well if the players are happy to be more focussed on being on the socials and getting in the media, talking us up, they better be ready to have some weaponised anger aimed at them I would much rather cold-blooded social-media-disengaged Russian special forces commandos playing footy than happy go lucky players who need the right words from the crowd and the right vibe and their balls tickled by Russian super models so they can enjoy salad days at the G. Nope.

Can anyone verify Lewis ill and Vince sore back? If so, were these known pre game?

That tells me the players don't fear the consequences. Which are driven by the coach, no? Or simply don't care enough. Which is fine for the MFC, the club coaching administration has for a long time accepted middling mediocrity as good enough. Maybe it's fans fault for not wielding pitchforks outside HQ, demanding tribute in the form of heads on pikes. The problem with the MFC is the shoulders are shrugged and onward. I thought with Roos coming in it might change. So it shows the systemically poor culture of the club that it all fell apart when he left. There's no ruthlessness.

At what point can we discuss Goodwin? Let's put some numbers around it. Mid season when we're bottom 6? With a % with an 8 handle? End of season? When?

Sorry but if you suffer from anxiety to the point that your angry supporters cause you to have a sudden inability to execute your elite skills, for which you are being paid squillions to use, then perhaps the football field is not for you.

Quambatook 3rds might use them. Or Sea Lake.

Blaming supporters is laughable. And typically Melbourne. Blame anyone but the p!ss poor prancy professional prima donna players and the coach. Just risible puss. Goodwin must go. And now.

Said every apologist for rotten football since 2006.

When the draw came out, I texted my fellow tragics and warned: high risk of us being 0-8. Off to a great start meeting that End of Days prediction.