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I only watched the first 3 quarters but as a small forward you've got to kick those goals. missed simple shots and that's all I want from a small forward.

Not sure what game you were watching. Bradtke got smashed in the ruck. even the vfl fill in did a much better job.

on a side note, i wish burgo did our website again. the website has hardly got any content, the videos are so short, and they only put like 5 photos of each training sessions. Burgo used to put about 20 up.

has his goal kicking transformed. he'll never get better unless he improves this side of his game.

The training session was pretty cruisy. The first thing i noticed is how slim all of the players are. Obviously forgoing strength for a gain in speed which was necessary as we were slow as f$%k last year. jetta looks in great shape, as does Petracca. Everyone else just looks slim. One of the drills was the players doing 4 or 5 backwards somersaults on the ground then getting up dazed to tackle a player. I thought it was a stupid drill and at what point in the history of our game has a player been required to do that. Oliver was basically passing out from either lower blood pressure or being dazed. not a good look i front of all of the kids but more importantly a stupid drill. Could have spent that time doing goal kicking practice. Rivers, runs well but his kicking needs a lot of work. Jackson was unsighted in all of the match sim stuff so we need to temper our expectations on him. Joel Smith was playing defence. Personally i think he is better forward but regardless he needs to be in the team as we are simply too slow otherwise. Dee Zephyr Training Report

anywhere I can see photos?

hey guys, just wondering the best spot to find training photos. i'm not understanding the new demonland training report layout. A picture tells a thousand words and love seeing who has put in the hard work etc.

with regards to AVB: There's no ability like availability so I don't really care what he does in pre-season if he gets injured during the actual season.

Everyone is overthinking this. It's quite simple. You take best player available. All this talk about gawn, game style etc. is silly. He's an 18 yr old kid, it's about the future and no-one knows what's going to happen. Who knows, the ruck rules may change, gawn could do an acl, ruck/fwds may be the next craze. no-one knows so you take best available. we finished 17th guys, we're not in the premiership window and there's just as much risk with Young. Everyone talks about 'that kick' in the championships but no-one talks about the fact that he absolutely butchered the ball for the previous 2 hours.

so how many times have u seen these guys live? I think the recruiters know more than phantom drafts on bigfooty

jackson should've been an option more people would move voted for him of he was an option.

so you dont like the timing of my post? he's basically a Tom McDonald clone of the backline. a headless chook

we just got slower. nice work goodie

I hear what you say but I feel that most of the demonland posters needed to be taught their lesson when they carried on about losing jack watts and how we are going to regret losing him etc. that was embarrassing for the site to have posters that wanted to keep jack watts. it shows a complete lack of knowledge about the game. and like Watts, stretch shouldve been gone 4 years before they were let go. Churn and burn and dont waste years developing players that have no talent.

no idea why stretch was even drafted. I literally knew the first time I saw him play that he was never going to make it. his ball drop is disgusting. I wish the club didnt persist with guys when its clear as day.

he has no ambition because he wants to join carlton? Dude, we came 17th! you could easily make an argument that they are closer to a flag than we are. You're too blinded by your loyalty to the dees that you can't properly evaluate our list and thus your comment about martin. I repeat...17th. if anything, our players demonstrate less ambition than any team in the league. we've got a top list on paper but came 17th. You can only talk excuses with injuries etc. if we came 9-12th but to finish 17th is a bloody disgrace.

Should have been delisted 2 seasons ago. he is the jack watts of the backline with less football IQ. gives frees away unnecessarily and is a) too slow for mobile forwards and b) too weak for big forwards. I would've tried him as a forward a couple of seasons ago just to make sure he was a flop up forward too before delisting him.

Spot on TGR. We are such an easy football team to play against. Have people forgotten how [censored] we are just because we haven't lost a game in a while? We lost to Port by 5 goals at the G, geelong by 80, stkilda by 40, rich 40, coll 40, syd 50 not to mention winning by less than 1 goal to gold coast and carlton. We need 2-3 small forwards with elite leg speed (none of this JKH, spargo cr@p, not even weightman), an additional key forward, a key defender to replace Oscar mcdonald who will no doubt play when Lever/May get no doubt injured. We also need another small defender as Hibberd and Jetta have looked slow the last 12 months. This can't be done overnight but we need to start making changes that help the list and not hurt it. Like seriously, who in our team can stop the likes of stephenson, degoey, hoskin-elliott? I only chose collingwood as an example and saw that they kicked 9 goals against us last year. Case in point.

yeah, why a thread for this? we are a basket case. Isn't that obvious? And why does whispering jack think a journalists comments would provide players with motivation. Seriously? ffs. So pre-season comes around and they're doing repeat 400's and the players are pushing themselves thinking 'jon ralph thinks we're a basket case'. come on, please. The players should already know that we are what we are and at this moment its the 17th best team in the comp.

It's more worrying that the list managers and the coaches feel that we need tomlinson. That's a concern for me. Why we didn't target Papley concerns me that the club has no idea what they're doing. Did they not see some of the pathetic slow football we played last year.

I think its reasonable. Oscar is a nice kick but its his decision making, lack of speed and overall decision making that frustrate us. I've seen the same from tomlinson this year.

Use your eyes to assess players. Stats are only there to confirm what you already think or don't think. And for the record, i think Tomlinson is going to be like Oscar Mcdonald playing on the wing.

lol. can't believe i said feels instead of fills.

Not sure why people think tomlinson fills a need. We are the slowest and slowest working football side in the comp so we decide to trade out our quickest player and pick up a slow 6'4 fringe player that is slow on foot but also in the mind with making decisions. Crazy

Why the f@#$ did we pick up tomlinson who is slow yet get rid of frost who is our quickest player. bloody stupid. We've bloody lost the plot. we're the slowest team in the comp before this idiotic move. Not looking forward to seeing tomlinson hobble down the wing whilst he is trying to catch jaiden Stephenson or something. ffs