Wiseblood

He took a few clubs for a ride that year, including us. To be fair we didn't exactly make our club an attractive place to play for at the time, so you couldn't blame him for not wanting to come to us.

You'll hold on to any reason in the hope a star player might choose you as a destination club. At least these days we have some reasons based on fact and not just hope.

I think that was all in our heads. He was a Melbourne supporter so, naturally, we thought we were a chance. We didn't even make the final 3 sides in his selection process.

Is there anything left for supporters to complain about this week? Jack Watts cause global warming? Nathan Jones contributing to Donald Trump's bad leadership of America? Anything? I've got three memberships and they'll be rolled over again this year. Hugely disappointed about what happened on the weekend, but chucking in my memberships over it seems childish.

Go on Chook, give us a little more. You know you want to!

There is certainly a little more noise about Lever not just wanting to come back to Vic, but wanting to play for us as well. Not sure if it's smoke and mirrors but there have been a few in the media who have been on this bandwagon.

Hardly. One more year as coverage is not going to hurt us in the slightest. I'd rather him there than have to potentially put faith in an unknown draftee. Having said that, if Frost was still on the list then fair enough. But if Frost were potentially used in the deal then I can see more benefit in keeping Garland on the list.

I've always rated Jon Ralph.

I see what you did there.

I agree, but it may come down to this: Lever or Frost. I know who we would all take.

Possibly, but what harm does it do to have him there for another year? He has enough experience that he could come in and fill a gap for a few weeks if we have an injury or two. We will have rookie list spots so you could theoretically stick another tall player there if you needed it.

I'd prefer to hang on to Frost, but I guess he ends up being the odd man out with the two McDonald boys and potentially Lever. We would also have Garland for another year and Keilty on the rookie list.

The plot is beginning to thicken.

Lever was named at CHB in the AFLPA Under 22 squad today. While not making the 22, Oscar McDonald was named in the squad of 40. They could combine to form a super backline for the next 10 years. We'll just have to put up with 10 years of STMJ talking about him in every thread.

Apart from this SEN caller, who could be anybody, there has been no indication at all that we have any interest in him. I'd say that more than likely means we aren't chasing him, or we have decided his asking price is too high. Either way I think he stays at GWS. He can win a flag or two there and then come home.

And the other 20% is you trying to discredit Oscar in any way you can. It's getting tiresome.

Article about it here: http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-08-21/exclusive-dogs-told-theyre-out-of-jake-lever-hunt

He'd probably pop a full fist on your chin if given the chance, Steve.

That's Philip H. Anselmo to you, son.

Yep, because that's exactly what I said... You are like arguing with a brick wall sometimes. I'd get better conversation and debate from a shrub.

I have jackaub on ignore. And I wasn't going the man, just disagreeing with your assertion that most on here rate him as 'elite', which outside of his kicking is untrue. You made your feelings clear about his suspension earlier in the week which to me has clouded your view. Can't see how you can construe that as going the man.

I doubt it's many, and most would simply rate his kicking as elite, which it is. Good to see you still can't get over his suspension either.

What accolades are these?

Don't forget Chris Johnson.

HUN are running a story tonight that he is on the verge on re-signing with the Saints. I don't think this one is going to happen, not that I really thought he would leave in the first place.