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Richmond also had Rance, Cotchin, Riewoldt and Dusty and a coach willing to change and listen to other people's ideas.

I do feel that the club has drank its own bathwater and as I said at the time, paying Lever $750k would have had players scratching their heads, I didn't think he was worth that (and picks) at the time and I certainly don't now, he has youth on his side though. Combined with May $700k who apart from the last half of this year has been a failure and Tomlinson $500k? It's decisions like this that can unsettle any workplace. I'm unsure whether the rumour is true or not, but they generally don't just spark up without some kind of smoke. As I've said for two years, I don't see what direction the club is going under Goodwin, if he weren't all chummy with the players I'd doubt he would continue, there is currently no direction and we've lost some of the best teachers as assistant coaches in the last few years. I do hope that whatever review they are undertaking, if at all, covers potentially our best players wanting to leave and why.

Yeah saw his post and sounded more like an opinion, have seen nothing official to say its "external"

Must say, if Oliver leaves, or wants to leave, it stinks and confirms that he doesn't see a good direction for the club imo. This is also on Goodwin. One of the more skilled players we've seen in a long time, having said that, I feel he has stagnated a bit last couple of years also.

I'm not sure, I've been away for a week, thought I read previously that the review was being done by Pert? Send through any links or articles to read though?

I don't see how this "internal" review is any different to any other club or any other team, it happens across any organisation. What we want and need is an external review, done by non melbourne, non bias industry leaders. I don't see what the beat up or surprise is currently, we've changed things around each year and still Goodwin spits them all out.

Definitely past it, so no from me.

One thing that annoys me is every time we have a kick out from a behind we go to max every single time. Has to be part of the gameplan but so ridiculously predictable

Correct, 7 out of the 8 of them will be a loser. What a waste of time.

I think he should be sacked. The club can still assist his mental health on the side if need be. Under no circumstances do I want the club to keep him because "they feel sorry for him." He adds very little and the trust is shot to pieces. We move on in an endeavour to become a ruthless club. Thanks but no thanks, seeya.

Is it the Melb way to lose the last two and win tonight? GWS were quite bad last week. Something strange tells me we win. Lets have a look who we can poach from GWS while we are at it. If its windy, then we know what we are going to see!

So if we haven't given up hope of Clarkson coming and Ross Lyon is an active target, doesn't that answer the question "is Goodwin the right guy." - Obviously the club doesnt think he is either.

It never ends. It’s a life thing.

Besides Ryan and Kelly, anyone else think that looked more like rugby? Great win WCE. Dees, Giants, Saints choking it up

Saints starting to get the wobbles

STK well on top early here, can tell WCE have half their side out.

Feel the same way.

Will paying him out be that much out of pocket? He’s not going to get a full pay out. Also he doesn’t listen to his assistant coaches imo and they end up leaving. If we are 1-4 next year, the club will be well on its way to folding.

Wouldn’t it be those teams asking, not the AFL asking the teams? We aren’t good enough, as seen very early in the season, before “travel” excuses. Unsure how you come up with the AFL asking teams in contention LH.

Why would the AFL want WB in the finals? Especially after their flag. And why would they want them over us? also in your own stats we have had less four day breaks than our opponents.

I hope they all go, but how many assistants has he had in four years? Also some of the best going around have sat next to him in Jennings, McCartney and Rawlings, then throw in the experience of Richardson who may not have made a senior coach but highly regarded assistant. This is a big problem, Goodwin has no idea and he doesn’t want to be told either imo

What was our excuse early in the year? Not an issue before the last two games when we were 4 from 5? We ran out both games well. The issue is when sides come with a plan, Goodwin has no idea how to fix it. Even Trac said we struggled to cope last two games when sides dropped a spare man back. It beggars belief. Not having a go at you mate, I’m just not copping the travel excuse, it was all there to see early in the season also.

Punishing? Before the last two embarrassing losses we’d won 4 out of 5? Albeit lowly teams in there but ran games out well and even in the last two losses we finished with plenty of energy, even Trac says it’s not even an issue. What was our excuse early in the year when we were playing the same? I think we are quite undisciplined but that doesn’t excuse no structure and not turning up, which is a common theme for years. Travel excuse is a way for them to get an out, but there’s deeper issues that have been lingering for a long time.

The more I think of all of this, not that expected Pert to say anything, he and Goodwin are totally spin masters and I’m less confident than ever. Pert lost me earlier on and Goodwin well before that. Supporters are being spun total rubbish to cover up

I still cannot believe this was allowed to happen.