SFebes

The biggest issue on demonland is people going from thread to thread and potting others' opinions, at least bring a decent discussion, good or bad, play the ball not the man. Passion in footy is a wonderful thing, football clubs are built around it and we should let it be, people handle things differently. Let them have their say, take it or leave it.

Feel for the kid and I just hope he isn't ruined by yesterday. Going by people who watch VFL, match day reports and Goodwins comments, I thought he was ready, but it may take a year or two. Sounds like he works hard but just hope his mind holds up, coaches should have recognised very early he was getting isolated, but didn't seem to help him out.

I’m with you, the last few weeks have been excruciating to watch..... isn’t it funny that it’s got worse since coaches had dinner at Gil’s house...

I think we’ll make it just, but only make up the numbers. Scary thing is, we hardly have any injuries, if we get a couple it could get ugly.

I think he should grow a brain first

Jones racks up cheap possessions, little handballs out the back of packs, has nece hurt the opposition and has poor disposal, he actually looks like the game has caught up with him. Viney was absent because our ideas man of a coach used him as a tagger for 3 quarters, just gob smacking. what this club needs and always has is a captain from another club, like Judd did at Carlton. A fresh leader who is not so Melbourne from the start

What frustrates me and this happened so much last year and still happens to this day is when the opposition has the ball in our backline it’s like watching them have a training run all the way up to their goals, you can see what’s going to happen before it does, surely this is a coaching error if it’s been happening for a year and a half?

Goodwin said in his presser we need to evolve to become a defensive team......isn't that what Roos did? Built our defence? Now he's saying we need to go back and do it? WTF?

Jones is going downhill badly, racks up cheap possessions to get his 20-30 but they don't hurt opposition oir add value, goes missing when needed.should have traded him years ago while he had some value, one trick pony and constant turnover king. Gawn take a bow, probably best game for the club, 25 disp, 11 marks, 39 hit outs. Goodwin needs to be asked some serious questions Our season is a waste, Garlett, Petracca, Tyson combined with B graders ANB, Jones, Vince, Lewis, Hannan, Weid. What the hell is going on with the forwards? Hogan? junk time goals, better today but jeez. Backline is atrocious, paid $750k & 2 first rounders for a guy with wonky knees then hello....hope he comes back OK. We need to rid these B Graders from the list, do a Hawks/Swans and bring in experienced performers. We don't have the cattle and we have a pretty dumb coach. There are no excuses to lose that game, it's utterly disgusting and embarrassing.

6. Gawn 5. Harmes 4. Fritsch 3. Viney 2. - 1. -

I'm now convinced that we haven't improved from last year, sad state of affairs really. Why Goodwin does the things he does, selections, game day tactics or lack thereof, TMac on a wing, the list goes on.

Ive been saying for weeks/months, we haven't beaten anyone, the warning signs were there from the very first game of the season. All good and well to beat up out of form sides, but when going gets tough we crumble. They learned nothing from round 23 last year, same mistakes every week. Dumb coaching, slow and poor tactical nous No leadership (Viney and Gawn excepted today) but others are poor when heat is applied. Hogan, TMac, Melksham, Tyson, Salem wtf? B Grade plodders - Jones, Lewis, Tyson, ANB, Smith, Petracca, the list goes on. Jones - great clubman and thanks but a bog ordinary footballer Season over - some serious questions need to be asked. If supporters can see the same issues every week, then why aren't they addressed? 3 blokes going for marks, bombing long (wtf again??) We played well v Adel and Carl, but have had serious issues in games and within games since round 1. To the positive bufferfly net swingers, explain that trash you speak, totally disgusting football club. I'm sick of losing.

Sorry Petty, go back to VFL for a couple of years, in comes next best

Agree 100%, not to mention he disappears when heat is applied

Same [censored] every year. Same mistakes every week. Same players every game when heat is on.

God Harmes does some dumb things for all his hard work

Our forward structure is [censored] pathetic

Good to see we’ve worked hard on our issues of last week

Joseph with a goal

Same bomb long bull shite

Flipper has turned into a Flopper

Cheers Drunkn, I was impressed with Dec yesterday, first time I'd seen him. Seemed composed, one of very few who actually lowered their eyes and done all the 1%ers well.

Baker not in the best? Probably was BOG.

BOG - Jack Steven 45 disposals, 3 goals, 13 tackles, 12 inside 50's

He looks depressed, I hope he’s ok, doesn’t seem to be enjoying his footy.